I got 99 problems but Spotify ain't one! because I live outside their small map. I don't exist for them and they don't exist for me. Edit: just joking, I am actually irritated I can't check out the Discover Weekly playlist, whenever it comes out in discussion. I just checked, my country is still not on their list.
Spotify is gaining leverage over record labels
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Re: Spotify is gaining leverage over record labels
#72I listen to music 5-6h a day now, all for dirt cheap (less than $2/month/person). I wish somebody would do the same for video content. Right now you have to subscribe to many different providers to get all the good content. So pirating is still more convenient and i still download rather than just pay a small, fixed amount.
Well, maybe music is just cheaper to make and easier to sell as a bundle.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Point is, you'll have to pay again. I prefer to pay once, and then have it in my collection.
Where can you pay a low one-time fee for such a vast amount of mainstream / popular music that you get to keep forever? Nowhere.
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#75Not much revenue. Spotify is famously stingy in how much it pays artists, to the point where big names like Taylor Swift are keeping their releases off Spotify.
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#76As we said above, their artists would suffer from the loss of distribution, but they’d also suffer a loss of revenue. Not much revenue. Spotify is famously stingy in how much it pays artists, to the point where big names like Taylor Swift are keeping their releases off Spotify.
I'm happy to listen to the artists I favour, as much as they get paid little, they do get some revenue from it
https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/5h2lmk/i_am_an_indep...
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I buy in stores like Bandcamp which sell FLAC, and then encode in Opus for playback. Also, prospects of your collection evaporating because DRMed service could suddenly close down tomorrow don't sound good. Convenience or not, I prefer to back up what I paid for.
> DRMed service could suddenly close down tomorrow don't sound good I'm not worried about that - it's not my collection, it's Spotify's. I'm merely paying for the unlimited consumption of their collection on demand, not to purchase the songs and have them for life. It'd be a different story if I expected the songs I listen to on Spotify to be available forever, but I don't, and that's not what I'm paying for.
But I've been there.
When Grooveshark quit -- I was a paying member and had no up-front notice -- I lost my complete library. I've looked into making a back-up before and figured out some technical requirements for that (e.g. I cracked the "encrypted" cached files) but never really got around to it. A list of which songs were in my library and playlists would have been all I needed, but I had no such thing.
Spotify doesn't offer this either. Like with Grooveshark, you can find technical ways of getting around it, but they're not jumping at the opportunity to provide a JSON export that you can import into another music service.
The other side of the coin is that not all music is available. Even now on Spotify, if you enable "show unplayable songs" there are a lot that turn unavailable every month. I don't want to think of which part will not be available at a competitor's.
For all these reasons, I agree with the person you're replying to. But I made the same decision as you -- i.e. I use and pay for Spotify -- because those indie stores just don't have enough music by a long shot to make it worth the trouble. Ideally it would be that way, though.
Re: Spotify is gaining leverage over record labels
#78As we said above, their artists would suffer from the loss of distribution, but they’d also suffer a loss of revenue. Not much revenue. Spotify is famously stingy in how much it pays artists, to the point where big names like Taylor Swift are keeping their releases off Spotify.
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#80As a paying Spotify member, practices like these only make me want to switch to DRM-free music more. Blackmailing artists with "we won't promote you if you don't lower your prices" and wasting half a million on 2 weeks of exclusivity. That's not what I'm paying them for; I pay them because I want to compensate artists.
It's a zero sum game after all.