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Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#181
Not sure why this is a big deal. you can turn it off.

HBO subscribers are shown ads (for other HBO shows) at the beginning of the play. I believe that happens with Amazon Prime Videos as well.

Google shows ads for Chrome browser when you google from a different browser.

how is this any different ?

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#182

Not sure why this is a big deal. you can turn it off. HBO subscribers are shown ads (for other HBO shows) at the beginning of the play. I believe that happens with Amazon Prime Videos as well. Google shows ads for Chrome browser when you google from a different browser. how is this any different ?

Because you pay Microsoft to use Windows, and you pay them a lot. With HBO streaming you can always skip past those ads, and I've never seen them on Prime videos (if you could again you can skip past them). With Google, they're giving you the service for free, so ads are expected.

If I'm going to shell out $120 for a Windows license, I don't want to see goddamn ads built into the fucking operating system.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#183

In browsers, ad blockers are being used more and more commonly for even non-technical folks. In native apps mobile apps, there are some okay ad-blocking solutions. But when the ads are baked into the operating system itself... I have a hard time seeing Microsoft or Apple losing the ad blocking battle. So, instead of getting ads somewhat sandboxed inside a browser, in the future we may be getting ads inside the start…

Blocking beaconing at the network level would be good next step.

DNSCrypt DNS resolver with a sinkhole that blocks ads and telemetry for any device is fairly easy to setup, I've done it for myself.

Searching for "ad blocking smart DNS" shows there's a ton of such services already. I expect a lot of them will be placing Adwords against "disable windows 10 ads" now.

Next in the arms race, however, Windows will start ignoring your DNS settings and use their resolvers, like some applications do today.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#184

Serious question: does MS sell a version of Window 10 outright that doesn't include all of the snooping? I've been a Windows user my whole life but I will NEVER use an OS that collects data on the OS level.

If you are not a gamer or don't care about invasive/live widgets, etc. and just want a more simplistic desktop interface then you should consider running Server 2016 as your desktop OS. You can turn off the telemetry.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#185
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This works well if your hobbies include manually editing obscure config files and replacing perfectly good hardware, and if your hobbies do not include playing games. I frequently explore the possibility of switching to Linux, and while it's not the garbage fire it was 15 years ago, it's still just not a peer to Windows for the way I use my computer.

I really can't underline how stupid you make yourself sound by writing that utter toss, so I simply conclude that I very much doubt you have any idea what Linux was like 15 years ago – considering that you have no idea what it's like now – so why refer to that at all?

We ban accounts that comment like this. Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#186

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That's why the parent put "free" in quotes. Unlike all the previous versions of Windows, MSFT decided to make this upgrade "free" for a while, but AFAIK it's still ridiculously easy to pirate Win10, and the "accessibility technologies" free upgrade loophole, which was said to be closing "very soon" many months ago, is still open. In other words, if you really don't want to pay, Microsoft still seems desperate to get…

> As a mass-exodus to Linux and macOS curretly seems unlikely, their strategy appears to be winning so far. ... or people just install windows 7 / avoid upgrading to 10. Hard to call that a "win" Take everything with a grain of salt, but metrics still point to Windows 7 dominance: http://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/de... https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share...

I did that recently on a laptop. It involved finding some relatively-obscure drivers from the actual hardware manufacturers and inserting them into my Windows 7 install media (NVME and USB, I think).

It took me a few hours of research (having never had to add drivers to get a machine to boot into a Windows installer before). I imagine that a lot of other people wouldn't have had any idea where to start.

And even after getting everything working smoothly, the touchscreen doesn't work (no drivers available, and the hardware isn't detected at all; good riddance), and there are some bits of power-management hardware that still show up as question-marks in the device manager.

New hardware will be increasingly difficult to run a reasonable Windows OS on. At least in my case, there were drivers for everything that matters to me.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#187

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> >they like editing Word documents > LibreOffice supports this and it works quite well. I would guess most people prefer google drive these days, though. I run LibreOffice on my Mac and documents ALWAYS render differently than on Word. I always have to proofread on an office computer before I send files out to my colleagues. > Do you actually know anyone non-technical who has used bluetooth at all in the past 5 year…

>I run LibreOffice on my Mac and documents ALWAYS render differently than on Word. I always have to proofread on an office computer before I send files out to my colleagues. If you're authoring the documents, you don't need to use docx. Use a more open format that's supported better by both. As for reading documents, who cares if it renders differently? So long as you can read it that's enough. >I literally used Blue…

A more open format? You mean ODF? A niche format that literally only cough free software enthusiasts cough care about?

You know what happens when you give someone .ODF in the real world? "Hey, (I can't open this|This looks completely broken), can you resend as doc/docx please?"

As for reading documents, who cares if it renders differently?

People in enterprise, which accounts for most usage of Office.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#188

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What you call "uninformed FUD" are unfortunately real problems I have had in the past 12 months on Lenovo Thinkpad W530 with Ubuntu 14.04. Perhaps I am missing the ever elusive combination of distro and machine.

Looks like there are a couple of minor issues that can be resolved with a trivial amount of research: http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_thinkpad_w530 If you hit other problems, did you do any research? Did you ask for support anywhere?

Every minute I spend "resolving minor issues" is a minute I have to repeat if I ever reinstall, a minute where I could be getting work done but am instead dinking with the tools rather than using them, a minute where I am not using my computer for the thing I want to be using my computer for.

Manual screwing around in .conf files, having to care about what GPU is in use and fussing around with configurators before using certain ports, features dropping out between driver upgrades.. and all this just from your link on one model of one computer that supposedly "supports Linux".

Look, I'm sorry, this is 2017, not 1997. This is not even a sorta okay standard of usability anymore. Not for home, not for enterprise, nor should it be accepted or defended as such.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#189

Not sure why this is a big deal. you can turn it off. HBO subscribers are shown ads (for other HBO shows) at the beginning of the play. I believe that happens with Amazon Prime Videos as well. Google shows ads for Chrome browser when you google from a different browser. how is this any different ?

Are you serious? So you will not mind if your phone suddenly starts putting ads on the lock screen? Or your watch?

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

#190

This sucks, of course. Yet all the comments on this thread saying the solution is to simply switch platforms ignore something very fundamental. I like to say "Nobody goes to Home Depot to buy a drill bit; what they want to buy is a hole." I don't use Windows because I want to use Windows. I use it because there are things I need to do that can only be done with it. The "just switch to Linux" reaction is an understand…

Everybody knows what you're saying. There are many people who only use Windows because they need software that only runs on Windows. Switching to something else requires you to replace that software. That's a cost. But having an OS that you first pay money for and then have it show you ads is also a cost. Every time they do something like this, it increases the number of people for which the second cost now outweighs…

> Switching to something else requires you to replace that software. That's a cost.

My point is that this is impossible. You can't buy the software you need at any cost. It does not exist. You can't even consider other platforms for this reason.

> you can still contact your software vendors and ask them for a Linux version.

Zero interest in that for on simple reason: There's nothing wrong with deploying and using the software on Windows. Why would a company bifurcate their development effort to support multiple platforms when it isn't necessary.

Programs like Solidworks, for example are highly particular about drivers and, in addition to that, need tools such as MS Office. CAMWorks, which is an integrated CAM programming tool for manufacturing uses an MS Access database for tool and operations parameters.

Coming back to the ads in Explorer. I lack context because we are switching all of our workstations to Windows 10 and I have yet to see any such ads. Do they exist in the higher level editions or just in Home edition?

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea at all. But, frankly, we probably spend significantly less than 1% of our time fiddling around with files in Explorer. When I am spending 12 hours a day on SolidWorks I couldn't care less what happens with explorer.

This is no different from visiting StackOverflow and ignoring the ads. Yes, I know one is paid and the other isn't. Yet, in the context of a workstation with $30K to $50K of software installed, the cost of the OS is a rounding error, it might as well be free.

Now, if ads start to pop-up in the middle of an 18 hour FEA run it's war.

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