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Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by dom0 »

coldtea wrote: post #162
dom0 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want my office to be quiet. The loudest thing in the room – by far – should be the occasional purring of the cat. Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that. It's a matter of applying a modest amount of care when selecting and assembling components.

> Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that. When it comes to off the shelve towers and laptops, you'd be surprised. And if you mean it's easy if one personally "selects and assembles components." you'd be surprised again on how atypical this is for the average PC buyer.

So? I claimed neither.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by notlisted »

I'm not a Hackintosh builder, have considered it many times. From the video's I've watched, the big trick, especially if you use Final Cut Pro X with OpenCL, is to avoid NVidia and use AMD Radeon video cards. Supposedly this makes the build process a lot easier/less finicky, and even faster. Can anyone confirm?

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by Svexark »

joshgel wrote: post #24
elmigranto wrote: post #15

I'm wondering whether it would be easier to run macOS in VM. No more fear of updates with snapshots, and I imagine ease of installation and less compatibility issues. Anyone does it, how's performance and keyboard "tunneling" (CMD vs CTRL)?

Ive found it pretty tough to get macOS up and running in a VM. Anyone know of any easy way?

A few days ago I used this guide to install Yosemite on an AMD computer with Windows 10 as the host using Virtualbox. It works but there's no accelerated graphics so it feels like working remotely.

https://techsviewer.com/install-mac-os-x-10-10-yosemite-amd-...

The trick is to use VirtualBox 4.3 instead of 5.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by megablast »

matt4077 wrote: post #94
jwr wrote: post #5

I used to use a Hackintosh. It was a time-consuming thing, I feared OS updates, and I could never be sure about the reliability (you can get really weird problems sometimes. I then switched over to a Mac Pro (cheese grater) and was very happy with it. Unfortunately, since the trash can Mac Pro I'm left out in the cold, so I'm considering running a Hackintosh again... Unfortunately, the information is still very fragm…

It's quite easy to do now, but the community is incredibly annoying. The software is usually on sourceforge or something even shadier, it's rarely actually OSS-licensed, and configuration/documentation/interfaces are a nightmare of incomprehensible incoherence. There cannot be a software community less professional. I've seen Minecraft plugins by 8 year olds much better in these categories.

I mean, of course right. These are guys fiddling with settings, rebooting numerous times, they finally get it right, and they upload what they have then move on and start using the machine. An incredibly frustrating experience.

It isn't the same as some kid who writes a plugin and then uses it and keeps playing minecraft.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by ttcbj »

rsync wrote: post #112
jwr wrote: post #5

I used to use a Hackintosh. It was a time-consuming thing, I feared OS updates, and I could never be sure about the reliability (you can get really weird problems sometimes. I then switched over to a Mac Pro (cheese grater) and was very happy with it. Unfortunately, since the trash can Mac Pro I'm left out in the cold, so I'm considering running a Hackintosh again... Unfortunately, the information is still very fragm…

"I used to use a Hackintosh. It was a time-consuming thing, I feared OS updates, and I could never be sure about the reliability (you can get really weird problems sometimes. I then switched over to a Mac Pro (cheese grater) and was very happy with it. Unfortunately, since the trash can Mac Pro I'm left out in the cold, so I'm considering running a Hackintosh again..." As the owner of an early-2009 octo-mac-pro, I am…

FWIW, I have a Mid 2010 Mac Pro. I found it was getting slow. I tried putting a lot of memory in it, to little effect.

Then, I put this:

https://www.amazon.com/OWC-Accelsior-PCIe-SATA-Adapter/dp/B0...

And this:

SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7KE1T0BW

In it as my system drive. The volume looks external (its got that orange and white icon), but everything has worked perfectly for about 18 months. It boots just fine.

For me, the performance increase with this change was incredible. Its like a new computer. I my OS and all my installed applications on it. I keep all my data on traditional drives in the other four bays. Its like a brand new computer. It was completely worth it. Right now, I use it for very intensive workloads of various kind, and never even think about replacing it.

Finally, you can find a lot of info online about whether you should enable TRIM or not. FWIW, I did do it, and its been working fine for 18 months:

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/installing-ssd-on-mac-trim-mista...

I cannot remember at this point how I copied the data over. I do remember that whatever method I found on google worked quite quickly, and that there were no hassles with it. After doing some kind of copy operation, I booted to the new drive and never went back.

Hope this helps.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by coldtea »

dom0 wrote: post #181
coldtea wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that. When it comes to off the shelve towers and laptops, you'd be surprised. And if you mean it's easy if one personally "selects and assembles components." you'd be surprised again on how atypical this is for the average PC buyer.

So? I claimed neither.

Well, by writing "Any reasonably well built desktop PC does that" it seemed like you imply that most models available in the market do it as well.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by Sanddancer »

derefr wrote: post #131
valuearb wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they clearly make substantial profits on the Mac line, so again why don't they just fucking do it?

My theory is that they strongly believe PCIe-over-Thunderbolt (now -over-USB-C) will obviate all need for internal expandibility/upgradability, and they went all-in on a form-factor (the garbage-can Mac) to take advantage of that... and then the market has stubbornly refused to co-operate by releasing Thunderbolt peripherals equivalent to internal components. So they're playing chicken with said market, probably unde…

Which won't happen until Intel is more willing to loosen their grip on Thunderbolt. With Thunderbolt, in order to even get in the door, you have to file an application to request to get into the development program which they promise to get back to you within three weeks in order to just get the datasheets needed to start designing. Conversely, protocols like PCIe and USB, you can get the chips, the datasheets, and development boards, with no signup process, just waiting a few days for the items to come in the mail. When you treat your customers like that, it's no surprise that the takeup on thunderbolt has been tepid.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

derefr wrote: post #124
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #102

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There's also turf war nonsense. The site that the OP mentions so much, from what I remember, plagiarises the software it offers.

Is "plagiarism" even the right word for re-hosting something in a more accessible central-directory format? They're not claiming it's theirs; they're just giving you a link you can actually click to directly download the thing, where the source is e.g. a phpBB forum that requires registration to enable downloads.

I don't mean stuff they rehost, if any. I mean their “own” tools (the ones with the site's name on them) are plagiarised.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by kilroy123 »

wezm wrote: post #158
kilroy123 wrote: post #156

While this PC looks great, visually, and spec wise; isn't this missing the point? It seems like a company needs to build a _very_ good linux distro with design first principles. It needs to work on a number of devices. More importantly, it needs to be a paid OS. It can have an open source distro underneath, but the UI needs to be created by people who are paid well.

This is pretty much what the elementary folks are trying to do https://elementary.io/

Nice. Thank you for this. I've never heard of this before. I think it shouldn't be optional to pay. I want a high-end distro that's $50-60 and far more polished. Better or equal to macOS.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by paulcole »

CPLX wrote: post #168
paulcole wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's literally incomprehensible. Just make a really good fast desktop computer. For the sake of argument, why? It's probably one of their worst selling products. Nobody defends the remaining iPod enthusiasts when they demand a new giant capacity iPod. Maybe we just need to accept that Apple doesn't want to be in the desktop computer business for much longer?

Because they are a computer company. Their inability to make a top of the line desktop is threatening my ability to justify buying their laptops or anything else from them. I run a company. I'm not going to mix and match operating systems and if I can't have high end desktops for heavy media work I'm going to switch everything eventually. I'm not abnormal. People keep trying to come up with some 4D chess explanations…

>Because they are a computer company.

You saying this doesn't make it true. To a neutral observer, Apple looks like a technology company that makes consumer products, including sometimes computers.

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