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Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by xaduha »

elmigranto wrote: post #15

I'm wondering whether it would be easier to run macOS in VM. No more fear of updates with snapshots, and I imagine ease of installation and less compatibility issues. Anyone does it, how's performance and keyboard "tunneling" (CMD vs CTRL)?

VFIO with proper configuration and compatible hardware that you pass (sound card, USB hub, video card) is indistinguishable from native.

> keyboard "tunneling" (CMD vs CTRL)?

Better to use original mac keyboards, if you have them, not really a virtualization issue.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by nottorp »

Razengan wrote: post #141
nottorp wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do. I expect your next response will impose qualifiers on "developers" and "compiled software." > I used to say that their laptops are fine > My experience is that their laptops are still more than fine enough for power users and developers. Well, [part 1] I don't use xcode, i touch type [part 2] and a lot of the stuff i work on involves looong builds and/or going through a few VMs. I also HATE fan noise and I wo…

> i touch type ... Part 1 disqualifies the emoji keyboard Why do you keep saying this? The Touch Bar replaces the FN keys, not the keyboard. There are no emojis on the Touch Bar unless you specifically bring them up. You can modify the Touch Bar to only present you with the controls you need. [1] > I also HATE fan noise and I work from home in a quiet room. ... disqualifies anything with laptop-like internals The 201…

> Why do you keep saying this? The Touch Bar replaces the FN keys, not the keyboard.

I use those keys. Without looking down.

> Which computer do you use? Is it a desktop without any fans?

Let's say I build my systems according to the advice on silentpcreview.com. Apple laptops on full load may be quiet for a laptop, but they have nothing on a custom built desktop.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #150
ak217 wrote: post #82

Just to provide a counterpoint, I recently did a new desktop build and installed Windows 10. It's not bad, and very different from the Windows 10 beta that I gave up on in frustration two years ago. With the Ubuntu subsystem I can do useful work right away. After turning off some of the annoyances (via the Services and Group Policy control panels), it really does a decent job of just working. You can download and ins…

If you're relying on the Ubuntu subsystem to do "real work", why not just install Ubuntu?

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Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by alkonaut »

redsummer wrote: post #18

Apple have made some terrible design decisions since Jobs died. A 'thin iMac' - whose thin-ness was absolutely pointless. The MacBook (2 lbs) and MacBook Pro (3 lbs) were designed to weigh arbitrary weights instead of thinking about features: http://www.apple.com/mac/compare/results/?product1=macbook&p... And the MacPro was possible the worst shape for upgrades. Jobs inspired people to come up with great machines, bu…

> whose thin-ness was absolutely pointless.

Design isn't pointless. That in itself has value. I'm thinking the poor upgradeability is actually a feature (for the seller - not the buyer) and not arbitrary either.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

chx wrote: post #149
ak217 wrote: post #82

Just to provide a counterpoint, I recently did a new desktop build and installed Windows 10. It's not bad, and very different from the Windows 10 beta that I gave up on in frustration two years ago. With the Ubuntu subsystem I can do useful work right away. After turning off some of the annoyances (via the Services and Group Policy control panels), it really does a decent job of just working. You can download and ins…

Is there really a difference you can feel (not measure) between NVMe and SATA SSDs? I am just wondering. I myself don't dare to go Windows because of malware. Linux is where it is.

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Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by kilroy123 »

While this PC looks great, visually, and spec wise; isn't this missing the point?

It seems like a company needs to build a _very_ good linux distro with design first principles. It needs to work on a number of devices. More importantly, it needs to be a paid OS. It can have an open source distro underneath, but the UI needs to be created by people who are paid well.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by alkonaut »

Xeoncross wrote: post #42

One day I want the Adobe suite to run on linux (natively) then I can leave OS X just like Windows. Local Media editing is the last reason for windows/os x to exist. Everything else (games, calculations, social networks, model rendering) is better served by a web or mobile app backed by a server running linux.

If I were Apple, I'd buy Adobe the very second I even heard a rumor of a Linux Adobe suite. I just wouldn't let it happen. Would be a few billion well spent.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by wezm »

kilroy123 wrote: post #156

While this PC looks great, visually, and spec wise; isn't this missing the point? It seems like a company needs to build a _very_ good linux distro with design first principles. It needs to work on a number of devices. More importantly, it needs to be a paid OS. It can have an open source distro underneath, but the UI needs to be created by people who are paid well.

This is pretty much what the elementary folks are trying to do https://elementary.io/

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by Razengan »

nottorp wrote: post #152
Razengan wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> i touch type ... Part 1 disqualifies the emoji keyboard Why do you keep saying this? The Touch Bar replaces the FN keys, not the keyboard. There are no emojis on the Touch Bar unless you specifically bring them up. You can modify the Touch Bar to only present you with the controls you need. [1] > I also HATE fan noise and I work from home in a quiet room. ... disqualifies anything with laptop-like internals The 201…

> Why do you keep saying this? The Touch Bar replaces the FN keys, not the keyboard. I use those keys. Without looking down. > Which computer do you use? Is it a desktop without any fans? Let's say I build my systems according to the advice on silentpcreview.com. Apple laptops on full load may be quiet for a laptop, but they have nothing on a custom built desktop.

> I use those keys. Without looking down.

Unless you slide your finger across the keyboard to "count" which FN key is under your finger, you can still use FN keys on the Touch Bar, without looking down; they are in the same positions.

The Touch Bar is always within your peripheral vision when you're looking at the screen anyway [1] [2].

> Let's say I build my systems according to the advice on silentpcreview.com. Apple laptops on full load may be quiet for a laptop, but they have nothing on a custom built desktop.

Well if you're willing to record/measure the noise of your current machine under your usual workload, I could try running the same tasks on my 15" 2016 MBP to compare.

Mind you though, a desktop chassis is usually far away from you, unlike any laptop right under your hands, unless you use it with an external keyboard. So objective noise vs. perceived noise will be different, and have to be compensated for.

[1] http://i.imgur.com/En02SKA.jpg

[2] http://i.imgur.com/DIN2fCE.jpg

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

SXX wrote: post #122
wmf wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android ROMs are the same way. Maybe something about the semi-illegality of it brings out the old DOS scene culture.

IMHO this have really little to do with legal status, but more with work atmosphere in community. You can see exactly the same problem on console hacking / homebrew scene. From one side there is huge user base full of people who want to get something working with no effort and usually tend to demand something from developers, but very few can provide even proper bug reports. On other side there is bunch of "experts"…

Back when I was in high school, I ported the game DOOM to Nintendo DS with a friend on IRC, and watched dozens of "forks" afterwards with minor changes or repackaging show up trying to take credit for our work (sometimes not even mentioning us at all as the authors!).
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