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Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by roblabla »

coned88 wrote: post #68

My concern with these hackintosh systems is safety. Tools like Unibeast/Clover and whatever else. They manipulate the OSX install image. It all seems to work but then you type in your credentials for the bank or work into a browser and who knows if the OS is compromised. Is it safe? That is the question.

Clover is fully open source. And it's not too complicated to follow along, so it's actually a fairly auditable piece of software.

I've been using hackintosh for a while, and it's almost a vanilla OSX with the exception of Clover and FakeSMC. I doubt there's any malware in there...

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by robk »

Those cases still look really ugly. Reminds me of the look I was going for twenty years ago when i was a teenager w all the neon. The Macs at least look elegant and like something I'd want in my house.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

coned88 wrote: post #68

My concern with these hackintosh systems is safety. Tools like Unibeast/Clover and whatever else. They manipulate the OSX install image. It all seems to work but then you type in your credentials for the bank or work into a browser and who knows if the OS is compromised. Is it safe? That is the question.

Can this be answered by doing a security review of the Hackintosh installation?

Would all that is necessary be to put the Hackintosh behind a network inspector, say Wireshark, to check if anything nefarious or unexpected is going on.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by oculusthrift »

tumblen wrote: post #45
jwr wrote: post #5

I used to use a Hackintosh. It was a time-consuming thing, I feared OS updates, and I could never be sure about the reliability (you can get really weird problems sometimes. I then switched over to a Mac Pro (cheese grater) and was very happy with it. Unfortunately, since the trash can Mac Pro I'm left out in the cold, so I'm considering running a Hackintosh again... Unfortunately, the information is still very fragm…

I think things have improved in the Hackintosh community. I built one a few months ago and was up and running in a day. Small issues since, but there's always a solution + guide within 15 minutes of searching (and it's usually just flipping a flag in Clover). When an update comes out, I just wait a week or so to make sure there are no issues and then update (no issues at all so far with that). Having a ridiculously p…

it really depends what type of hardware you get.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by jafingi »

jwr wrote: post #5

I used to use a Hackintosh. It was a time-consuming thing, I feared OS updates, and I could never be sure about the reliability (you can get really weird problems sometimes. I then switched over to a Mac Pro (cheese grater) and was very happy with it. Unfortunately, since the trash can Mac Pro I'm left out in the cold, so I'm considering running a Hackintosh again... Unfortunately, the information is still very fragm…

It's _NOT_ a problem anymore. I just bought a Hackintosh with components from Tonymacx86's guide. It was literally just to assemble everything, create a bootable USB with the Unibeast tool (which uses the Clover bootloader) and then install it. And it just works. OS updates etc. are not an issue, and I do it just like I would on my Macbook Pro.

Only thing is iMessage/iCloud. It takes a little to set up correctly, as you'd have to "hack" the serial numbers etc., but once it works, it just works.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

robk wrote: post #72

Those cases still look really ugly. Reminds me of the look I was going for twenty years ago when i was a teenager w all the neon. The Macs at least look elegant and like something I'd want in my house.

That's your only criticism? Maybe choose a different case?

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by wayn3 »

Drdrdrq wrote: post #57
coldtea wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Catering to the majority (of its niche, which is non-Windows, easy to use, all-in-one, curated experience, upmarket PCs) and not to even further niches?

Their niche will soon figure out there are some people (like OP) running the same software on much better hardware for much lower price. How much longer do you think they will keep buying original macs?

I buy an original mac because I want a machine that does what it does without all the overhead of assembling it myself. if i spend just 2 hours of my time assembling something equal for 400 bucks less, ive gained nothing. and chances are itll take a lot longer than those 2 hours. with a mac, you click a button and receive a machine that is "pretty fuckin good", for 1700-2500 dollars. do I know I could do better? Sure. Do I give a shit, though?

i could almost turn "could macs be good value?" into a mandatory interview question, because those who say no don't understand how trading money for time works. working with such fools is incredibly tedious and painful.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by coldtea »

0x0 wrote: post #64
coldtea wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Catering to the majority (of its niche, which is non-Windows, easy to use, all-in-one, curated experience, upmarket PCs) and not to even further niches?

What happened to "Here's to the crazy ones" :(

It's an advertising slogan. Whatever happened to Coke wanting to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony and getting sexy women hit on you when you put on Lynx?

Besides, being "the crazy ones" and being a cpu/gpu power hungry is orthogonal. Apple never sold the most powerful computers (except briefly and accidentally, when Motorola did something right).

Just friendly and easy to work with computers -- which the "crazy ones" could get going with without needing an IT debarment. A "crazy one" can be e.g. a human rights activist or some novel graphic artist, that just needs a simple computer to work with.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by bluedino »

>> Maybe Apple have been waiting for the recently released Ryzen CPUs from AMD?

You can't even run the stock kernel on AMD chips. How much QA and other work Apple would have to do, I have no idea.

Re: Building a Hackintosh Pro

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Post by nottorp »

swah wrote: post #66
nottorp wrote: post #54

Problem is, Apple doesn't have anything for power users or developers right now. I'm currently hackintoshing, but with every "dumb it down" decision (like remove the battery life time estimation), hardware mishap (LG monitors not working near wifi, come on) or new hardware announcement that still doesn't serve my demographic i wonder if i shouldn't just switch back to Linux. I used to say that their laptops are fine,…

I'm on Linux now, and people that like design and attention to detail can't really be happy using this... I don't expect massive migration to Linux from OSX. People will go back to Windows and OSX in a few months.

For the record, I've been using Linux as my main OS for 10 years when I finally decided to switch to OS X about 4 years ago. I have no problem switching back if Apple stops offering me enough flexibility. After all, you don't need to recompile your kernel to install drivers any more :)
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