Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl

Post by int_19h » Sat, Mar 18, 2017, 1:02 PM UTC

cm2187 wrote: post #56

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No dedicated testing team is ever going to beat the developers dogfooding the tool daily. I wish I had access to metrics from stackoverflow et al, to see if Microsoft inhouse developers use Edge

I don't think they use Office either. The only software where you can tell that they dogfood it is Visual Studio. Every change makes sense, is useful, user friendly and corresponds to problems I have met. The other software that you would assume they dogfood but it doesn't show is Windows 10...

I don't think I've ever seen a person at MS that doesn't use at least one Office app. Outlook is pretty much a given.

Post by rabboRubble » Sun, Mar 19, 2017, 4:04 AM UTC

jorvi wrote: post #70

cm2187 wrote: post #65

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The 2007 UI was a major step backward in term of productivity. Everyone I know who uses Office extensively still miss the 2003 UI. Also there are lots of use cases that they never bothered fixing or improving, which show they don't really use it. Like non resizable windows in excel (eg function wizard). Linking a powerpoint deck to an excel model (no good solution now). No way to do placeholders within a textbox in p…

Pretty much everyone I know likes the Ribbon UI, you don't have to drill down in nearly as much menus. Granted, it only really started to get better after 2011, but its excellent now. There's a reason there's such a huge pressure on LibreOffice to come with some kind of interface paradigm that doesn't feel like it's from the 90s.

My main and continuing complaint with the Ribbon is that using it is slow. It encourages mouse usage and if you have to use a mouse for an operation, the operation is slow.

Not to mention that the action of the Ribbon is kind of seizure inducing as the entire thing is in constant change as various objects are selected thereby unhiding specialized menus.

I've taken to minimizing the entire Ribbon so I don't have to see it, requiring me to re-learn and re-memorize the multi-key keyboard shortcuts since they are different than the 2003 version.

If I could kill the Ribbon with fire, I would.

Re: Chrome/macOS users in The Netherlands cannot visit google.com or google.nl

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