Everyone loves Bernie Sanders. Except, it seems, the Democratic party

Post by akhilcacharya » Fri, Mar 17, 2017, 7:19 PM UTC

forgotmysn wrote: post #36

buerkle wrote: post #27

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It was not blatantly obvious. I voted for Bernie in the primaries, but let's be clear. Clinton won the primaries by millions of votes. If more states had primaries instead of caucuses Clinton would have won even more states.

It was blatantly obvious. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wikileaks-emails-show-dn...

Post by mcbruiser1 » Fri, Mar 17, 2017, 7:20 PM UTC

eli_gottlieb wrote: post #40

cnnsucks wrote: post #23

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"compelling message for the working class" They have a compelling message for the working class. It's a message of contempt and hate. The long marriage of the working class and Democrats has ended and it wasn't the working class that walked out the door. The Democrats are down to the comfortable professional class preening its "values" and a coalition of grievance groups. Everyone else is on the other side pulling ba…

I don't see the Republican Party championing anything for the working class but death. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/432796/working-class-wh...

Post by mcbruiser1 » Fri, Mar 17, 2017, 7:23 PM UTC

maxander wrote: post #26

nodesocket wrote: post #13

I respect Bernie, and really admire his class and honestly. However I don't agreee with his economic and political ideology. A "hand-out" government would be near disasterious for America. It goes against one of the core principles of being American, the ability and optimism to work your way up without limits. To start a company that can be successful at home and abroad without excess regulation, red-tape, and buracr…

"the ability and optimism to work your way up without limits" is absolutely the classic American ideal, but it requires that everyone is given half a chance. If you're too poor to go to college, or can't access treatment for a debilitating illness, or subjected to racist/homophobic/whatever discrimination, you've already lost out on the American dream. Compare the "basic resources required to start working your way u…

Post by baursak » Fri, Mar 17, 2017, 7:28 PM UTC

nodesocket wrote: post #41

baursak wrote: post #33

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> the ability and optimism to work your way up without limits Kind of like Trump did? Or the current generation of Walton family? Anyway, I thought this was short and to the point on this subject: https://brightside.me/article/what-you-should-think-about-be...

Larry Ellison was born in Brooklyn, NY to a single mother, Ellison was raised by his aunt and uncle in Chicago who were quite poor. Howard Schultz (Starbucks CEO), Sean John, Oprah Winfey, Jay-Z, do you want me to continue naming people who come from hard positions with little to no money and the inner-city and made it on a grand scale?

Post by nodesocket » Fri, Mar 17, 2017, 7:31 PM UTC

baursak wrote: post #57

nodesocket wrote: post #41

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Larry Ellison was born in Brooklyn, NY to a single mother, Ellison was raised by his aunt and uncle in Chicago who were quite poor. Howard Schultz (Starbucks CEO), Sean John, Oprah Winfey, Jay-Z, do you want me to continue naming people who come from hard positions with little to no money and the inner-city and made it on a grand scale?

> do you want me to continue naming people who come from hard positions with little to no money and the inner-city and made it on a grand scale? Yes, please continue. I'd like a large enough sample to dig into.