Utah didn't solve homelessness. The primary "reduction" was changing the definition of chronic homelessness and now less people are being counted. http://www.aei.org/publication/on-utahs-91-percent-decrease-...
So its like the US unemployment rate?
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#32It was interesting to hear about this, then drive down Rio Grande street or around Pioneer Park and see the massive tent cities and tons of homeless people. Things got really bad downtown the last year or so. I wonder if this is a case of Salt Lake doing such a good job that homeless from other states were attracted here?
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#33>A similar approach was first tried in Los Angeles in the late 1980s and New York City in the early 1990s.
Does anyone have a reference for this? I did some searching, but didn't find anything. If anything, the articles I found just said that homelessness in LA was a continuing problem throughout the 80s until today.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like cynical hear-say like this adds nothing to the conversation. It just tries to smugly diminish good news with no proof.
It's also very likely true . http://www.aei.org/publication/on-utahs-91-percent-decrease-...
Ok, great. Then post facts instead of "My family overheard..." I shouldn't have to call out hear-say to get more substantial data.
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#35Utah didn't solve homelessness. The primary "reduction" was changing the definition of chronic homelessness and now less people are being counted. http://www.aei.org/publication/on-utahs-91-percent-decrease-...
I think you need to read your own article. Its conclusion states, "Utah experienced a less dramatic, but still impressive 71 percent decrease in chronic homelessness since 2005." Are the numbers slightly inflated? Sure. Is it better than anything the west coast is doing? Absolutely.
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#36Utah didn't solve homelessness. The primary "reduction" was changing the definition of chronic homelessness and now less people are being counted. http://www.aei.org/publication/on-utahs-91-percent-decrease-...
So its like the US unemployment rate?
When was the US unemployment rate definition changed? I know there are debates around whether the rate we normally talk about is the most important indicator, but the definition has remained the same for decades, AFAIK.
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#37I'm confused by this. My brother has an office in downtown SLC near the Rio Grande building, and it's pretty clear when I visit him that there are hundreds of homeless people living in that neighborhood alone. Pioneer Park is also covered in homeless people. If that is less than 200 people either I don't understand what "homeless" means or something is... off. How does one define "chronic homelessness?" I really want…
Salt Lake City has a lot of seasonal homeless, people who come for the summer and leave for the winter. Seasonal homeless are not counted as chronic homeless. There are no homeless people anywhere else in the state so the ones you see in Salt Lake are it. Not all panhandlers are homeless. Most of the homeless in Salt Lake City seem to disappear at night. There are no massive homeless camps like you see in San Francis…
Reminded me of this: http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/local-news/beggar-preten...
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#38Utah didn't solve homelessness. The primary "reduction" was changing the definition of chronic homelessness and now less people are being counted. http://www.aei.org/publication/on-utahs-91-percent-decrease-...
FYI, this is one person's interpretation of looking at data. He didn't produce the data.
Also, he works at an organization that is famous for producing data that neo-conservatives use to attack global warming.
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#39Utah didn't solve homelessness. The primary "reduction" was changing the definition of chronic homelessness and now less people are being counted. http://www.aei.org/publication/on-utahs-91-percent-decrease-...
While there is merit to this counter-point, I should also contextualize that this is a fairly conservative think tank.
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#40Utah didn't solve homelessness. The primary "reduction" was changing the definition of chronic homelessness and now less people are being counted. http://www.aei.org/publication/on-utahs-91-percent-decrease-...
I have a great idea on how to eliminate poverty!