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Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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The best way to rate a movie for me would be: when will I watch it again? They kind of already know this though. (How many times have I watched a particular movie on Netflix?)

not for me. I rarely watch movies twice, even those I really enjoy. A better metric for me would be "am I glad I watched this movie"

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#112

> The streaming service said it had been testing thumbs up and down ratings “with hundreds of thousands of members” in 2016 – and it led to 200% more ratings being given. I don't understand why engagement is the right metric here. If someone isn't sure how they feel about a movie, why is it a benefit to have them spew their half-formed thoughts into a like/dislike rating?

>If someone isn't sure how they feel about a movie, why is it a benefit to have them spew their half-formed thoughts into a like/dislike rating?

That's pretty harsh.

I've watched plenty of movies that I enjoyed and would give a thumbs up but aren't sure whether it should be a 3 or 4 star movie. There's movies I love but consider too flawed to give 5 stars. And I find little difference between 1 and 2 stars other than the level of regret for wasting my time.

Overall I rarely bother rating things on Netflix because it just doesn't feel worth it. So they get nothing out of me, whereas with a thumbs up or down I am more likely to chime in.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#114

I don't have Netflix, so I 'm not clear if the rating shown to users is changing. Or does it not show a rating, just use it to decide what movies to surface for you? In any case, simplifying the ratings users can bestow makes a lot of sense, unfortunately. We like to imagine people carefully considering the merits and flaws like a professional reviewer, but the fact is that the vast majority of users only ever use tw…

the histogram of the star ratings are much more valuable. I tend to avoid bathtub curves.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#116
post #70

I feel like star ratings, if just given in general, are pretty useless for anything that has multiple qualities. For example, maybe I like the cinematography of a movie but I think the acting is shit, or maybe I think the taste of the beer is nice but it's too acidic or sour and wouldn't work with specific foods because it's overpowering. Airbnb does this pretty much spot on, in that they ask for 1-5 stars for five c…

Incidentally, Steam ratings are also simple up/down, with total and sliding window 30 days aggregate, and an Amazon-style helpful/unhelpful/funny meta-rating.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#117

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Your thesis is basically, ratings mean absolutely nothing, and how good something is should solely be based on how popular it is?

The problem as I understand it is that the "rating space" is multidimensional (a piece can be funny with great plot but bad writing compensated for by a great lead and awesome special effects although the set design was inconsistent) but all of this has to be projected into a 1-dimensional system. And the rub is that not everybody uses the same projection, which means the utility of one person's rating for another un…

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Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#118
At no point do I recall Netflix promoting this rating system as anything but way to get better matches. The fact that so many comments are about losing a system for criticism, just confirms that it was the wrong metaphor to use in the first place.

Perhaps they could bring back a "critical review" mechanism, but I'd guess it wouldn't affect your matches at all. And probably be mostly unusable on a TV anyway.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality I ignore ratings because of that. They don't mean anything and I am guilty. On Good Reads, I have given what is deemed as a trashy piece of writing 5 stars. At the same time, I have given Dune 1 star because the story was garbage. So what is this 5 star rating? Some people say it is the experience, some say it is the writing style, others…

Your thesis is basically, ratings mean absolutely nothing, and how good something is should solely be based on how popular it is?

Yes, the whole thing is meaningless but atleast views offer some glimpse. I would have given Barb Wire 6/5 as I was a teenager with a crush on Pamela. How can that relate to a rating of a film that you could use?

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#120
post #78

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Sure, that makes sense, but as a consumer, all that matters to me is whether they have the content I want or not. If they don't, Amazon will gladly sell me the season DVD's that Netflix hasn't been able to host. I'm not personally interested in 'investing' in Netflix creating their own content (which I generally haven't been that into honestly).

I'm cool with that, I'm just bothered by the constant blaming Netflix for something that is not of their creation. These problems will exist with any streaming service as long as people point their complaints to the wrong companies. People should complain to the content rights holders, not the streamers. It's just as possible for the content owner to tell Amazon to stop selling their content if they wanted for some s…

Yeah I think anyone who's been following Netflix should know that keeping content they didn't create available for streaming is actually quite difficult and not just because 'Netflix sucks' or something.
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