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Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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post #42

I wish there was a "meh" option. Sometimes things are ok, but not good or bad. This will leave me not rating a bunch of things unless they're good or bad.

Special categories would also be nice. "Would probably be funny if I was high". "Don't watch when high - will freak you the hell out".

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#72
post #58
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't care how they run their business. Not my problem. What is my problem is: I started watching X-Files for the first time (yeah, never go around to it for the initial airing). Started watching in late February. And starting March 1st, is a warning on the upper left of my monitor saying "Show will be removed April 1". From my viewpoint, I'm paying the same, and getting less. Not only less, but specifically…

> "Show will be removed April 1". Don't worry, the show goes downhill after the first couple of seasons, so it's probably for the best.

I watched until the T-1000 showed up. Can't see him as an organic lifeform. But in all seriousness it's a huge UI improvement that they give you a few weeks heads up now. I've narrowly missed the ending to some damn good shows and all I needed was a few days to get to a spot with some closure. I get that the rights aren't entirely in their control, so at least it's something.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#73

I can't imagine any film that conveys a message, cinematography, style, and meaning that could be encapsulated with a simple thumbs up or thumbs down. What a disappointing simplification.

That's very rare cases. Cinema is the most unhuman conveyor of entertainment content consumption. Modern movies are nice looking moving pictures generated based on big data and emotion exploitation.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#74
As I posted in the dupe:

This saddens me.

>Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries

That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in a while.

They are diluting the meaning of quality and instead are opting for a saccharine "enjoyment" factor. This binary choice does not sit well with me and I hope they abandon the idea soon.

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#75
post #38

From the linked Variety article, "However, over time, Netflix realized that explicit star ratings were less relevant than other signals. Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries." But the signal isn't just for Netflix; it is also for users, who might sometimes be in the mood for something silly and some…

But I want Netflix to surface good documentaries as well as good silly movies. I'm more likely to watch a silly movie, so with this change my queue is more likely to be filled with silly movies, making me more likely to unsubscribe because it appears that Netflix only has silly movies. I watch more silly movies than good documentaries, but I pay for Netflix mostly for the good documentaries. I can get mindless pablum…

I'd be pretty happy if netflix managed to actually suggest things there's a vague chance I'll be interested in rather than whatever they recently released/bought and desperately want viewers for..

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#76
post #38

From the linked Variety article, "However, over time, Netflix realized that explicit star ratings were less relevant than other signals. Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries." But the signal isn't just for Netflix; it is also for users, who might sometimes be in the mood for something silly and some…

Thumbs up or thumbs down is just as good of a signal for the users. Everybody has some innate star rating threshold where they won't watch a series or film. If it's below 3.5 stars I won't even give it a chance. Thumbs down accomplishes the same thing.

I'm going to rely on Netflix's recommendation engine to put things in front of me that I am going to enjoy.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#77
post #62

I think a lot of people are reacting here as if Netflix is moving from the only signal they have being the star and review system to the only signal they have being the up/down system, and thus confused as to why Netflix would throw away the vast majority of their rating ability. But that's not even close to true. In addition to it technically being up/down/no rating, we've got how long people watch the show for, how…

Yes, but the ratings aren't just for Netflix to use, they're also interesting information for users.

This move seems very inward-focused: Netflix is thinking about the information it wants to get from users, but I wonder if they surveyed people about how much they want to see percentage-likes instead of stars.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#78
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh. Why do so many not seem to understand that, in most cases, Netflix is likely not "dropping" anything? Netflix does not own the rights to the content and the owners can decide on the terms of the agreement on how long the content will be on Netflix. People threatening to leave, or actually leaving, lowers Netflix's leverage to try to get and keep the content in their system. This is why Netflix is creating their…

Sure, that makes sense, but as a consumer, all that matters to me is whether they have the content I want or not. If they don't, Amazon will gladly sell me the season DVD's that Netflix hasn't been able to host. I'm not personally interested in 'investing' in Netflix creating their own content (which I generally haven't been that into honestly).

I'm cool with that, I'm just bothered by the constant blaming Netflix for something that is not of their creation. These problems will exist with any streaming service as long as people point their complaints to the wrong companies. People should complain to the content rights holders, not the streamers.

It's just as possible for the content owner to tell Amazon to stop selling their content if they wanted for some strange reason.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#79
I have always wanted to get ratings from a selected group of viewers who has similar tastes as me. For example, I like SciFi movies that involves planetary travel, ie Star Trek or similar style movies. If I can get ratings from folks with similar interests as well, then the rating system would make sense for me. Otherwise, it is still a hit and miss for me.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

#80
post #38

From the linked Variety article, "However, over time, Netflix realized that explicit star ratings were less relevant than other signals. Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries." But the signal isn't just for Netflix; it is also for users, who might sometimes be in the mood for something silly and some…

I'll admit that I have had Netflix recommend to me movies that it thought I would rate at one star, and I have watched that movie and then rated it one star. Not only did their current system predict that I would watch that movie, they predicted my relative opinion of the movie's quality. And yet I watched the movie, and thus felt like their recommendation system served its purpose. I have to say that going into it expecting a one-star rating allowed me to set expectations for the film.

If they remove the axis of quality and merely opt for "will you watch this: yes/no", it will make it harder to select "good popcorn trash" versus "high-quality, high-enjoyment" to fit my mood.

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