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You left out the part where they are still guaranteed minimum wage if they don't get enough tips.
Try working at a restaurant and actually getting them to pay you that. They don't.
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Some answers (specifically, addressing the situation with Lyft): > When you tip, is the driver individually informed? No, not directly. Yes, indirectly. You get a ride summary at the end of the day. Backtracking who tipped what takes effort. Even so, sometimes people tip when they open their app back up (or through the email) which can present a lag... I've gotten "x tip from day y" additions to my ride summary days…
It sounds like tiping is a regressive tax against lower class "suckers".
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Actual data shows the average tip is 16.1% https://qz.com/189458/the-united-states-of-tipping/
Those are tip numbers reported by Square. Original reply was to comment about tipping at restaurants, not POS tips. I found 16.1% surprisingly high for Square tips, actually. But even then, 15% is below average.
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Why do you think this is fraud? At least in SF, I'm pretty sure the standard deal is that the drivers pay for the cab regardless of what they get in fares. Cabs were a cash business for a hundred years, after all. I think the deal with credit card machines in the cabs is that the cab companies see it as a revenue source. I know cab drivers grumble about the cost of using them. It makes sense to me that Stripe is chea…
Here, it is legally mandated that cab drivers use the company-provided credit card machine to process all credit card transactions. The company takes 7% of all such transactions. Yes that percentage is ridiculously high, but it is mandatory per regulation. It is unacceptable for drivers to personally process credit card transactions, whereby they retain access to the credit card number. Forget the underhanded fraud t…
I'm only a little surprised that nobody has suggested this, but: If the driver does something shady, just get out of the car. Immediately. Don't even give them the opportunity to apologize for it. I've had drivers call ahead to ask where I'm going. I just hang up on them, cancel the ride, then order another ride. While I'm in the car with a new driver, I report the incident using the in-app system and, on many occasi…
Uber will often give you a credit when you report this but they don't seem to be actually fixing the problem.
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Sorry to single you out specifically, but I've seen people put themselves in dire situations for the sake of "doing a startup," and it always makes me cringe. If you're struggling to make rent, maybe you should consider doing something like Upwork or Gigster then? Or even a full time job? Either your startup is succeeding: you've raised enough venture capital to support yourself, or you're making enough revenue to be…
I was going to type 10% of this, but you nailed it perfectly. "I'm doing a startup" is often a trap that allows you to justify not properly supporting yourself. Get a job, do it well, and make your startup work in the extra hours. If you can't find the time, you're not meant to be starting anything up.
"Honey Badger does not give a sh*t, if it's hungry, it's hungry"
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> Lately? Have you read what I linked? From day 1, Uber has been of utmost evil. This is not new. My point is that the average user of the Uber app is not aware of any of this. They were likely recommended the app by a friend or read a vaguely fawning article in a magazine, or saw an ad online. So it's not fair to say every Uber user endorses their behaviour. They don't know about it.
You can't be unaware that Uber is flaunting taxi legislation. That's impossible to miss.
I guess most of HN never were so broke that they can't put themselves in the place of a worker who can receive a tip. Tips go directly to a person. Often a low paying or second job. It is about generosity and helping a fellow person. It's not about economic theory or even JUST how they served you. The tip -$1 or $2 or $5 gets the person a gallon of gas. A meal. A cup of coffee. It helps pay off a bill. It is savings…
I still don't want to be guilted into leaving every person I interact with in a day money because their employer doesn't feel like paying them for doing their job.
The more you tip someone the less their employers pay them.
Wouldn't you prefer a steady paycheck to relying on the kindness of strangers to be able to pay rent?
Where does this madness stop? Since you are personally so virtuous, do you also tip the cashier at Walmart every time you buy deodorant? The shelf stocker? Deli meat slicer operator? The person bagging your groceries? McDonald's employee who made your Big Mac? Do you walk into the kitchen to slip a Washington into the cook's pocket? The person at the bodega who made your sandwich? None of those people make much.
How about the receptionist at the doctor's office? Your doctor? Your mechanic? Pharmacists? Pharmacy assistant? Bank teller? Theatre attendant? Garbage collector? Police? Mail carrier?
How about the adminstrative staff at your office? Do you slip them a few bucks for scheduling your meeting and emailing you the meeting minutes? The cafeteria staff?
There's many low paid people who don't interact with the public. Do you mail a check to Amazon's wearhouse for the people who packed your Christmas gifts? What about when people provide customer service over the phone or Internet? So you reply to emails you get with your credit card number to tip the email sender?
>The largest tippers are or were poor
This isn't even remotely true, people use tipping to signal their power and wealth. It's a social signal. It's classist. It is not a bunch of poor people passing around the same $5 to each other.
>One of lifes most enjoyable things is to be generous.
I don't find being guilted into paying other people's wages to be either generous or enjoyable. I don't find turning every interaction into a business dealing to be enjoyable. I don't find living in a society where people won't do their job without not-so-subtile bribes enjoyable or something to strive for.
Do you want to live in a society where it's ever increasing amounts of customer extortion over legitimate customer service?
I don't think highly of people who enjoy throwing coins at those "below" them and enjoy holding that power over them. The people who enjoy pulling out a $20 to "make sure they are taken care of" that day are not generous. I have some unkind words to describe such people.
Oh, by the way, I intend to leave my entire estate to charity. I am not an unkind or stingy person.
I guess most of HN never were so broke that they can't put themselves in the place of a worker who can receive a tip. Tips go directly to a person. Often a low paying or second job. It is about generosity and helping a fellow person. It's not about economic theory or even JUST how they served you. The tip -$1 or $2 or $5 gets the person a gallon of gas. A meal. A cup of coffee. It helps pay off a bill. It is savings…
Be careful. Talking about tips is a good way to make dang get grumpy
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>No Tipping is one of the main reasons I liked Uber; no cash, no pressure It is a tragedy of recent generations that people cannot even handle a simple decision of to "tip or not to tip" by themselves without going to some amount of "pressure". We are indeed, a generation of sheep, who cannot be expected to make a simple decision all by themselves.
I'm more dismayed that the thought of giving another human being a little extra money to thank them for good service is so painful to people that they try to avoid it at all costs. Uber's model feels like it's trying to make the human driver into a robot. Until we have actual robot drivers, I prefer a system that has the tipping built in, e.g. Lyft.
More like the thought of being expected to fork over extra cash for a standard transaction above what I already expected to pay up front. The problem is that the idea behind tipping has been abused. The onus needs to be on the business owner.