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Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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I don't agree with the argument that passengers should tip because Uber isn't paying their drivers enough. That sounds like welfare for Uber. If the pay sucks, Uber should have trouble recruiting drivers.

tipping is a shady way of shifting the cost and more importantly the risk of employment onto the customer

über barely scrapes the minimum of a viable living for their drivers because they exploit the desperate.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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The implication is that 20% the widely accepted minimum "good tip" rate, and consistently tipping 15% is consistently being cheap. Especially when you're a tech worker FFS. Let's break out of our echo chamber a bit. In the US, tipping isn't "paying more than required," it's basic manners. You can argue until you're blue in the face about how businesses are to blame, but the vast majority of society, who have no big b…

I'm in Canada whre 15% is considered "normal". I did not know 20% was the normal in the U.S.

20% is not the normal minimum in the US.

Edit: here are some supporting links.

15-20% suggested with 20%+ recognized as a minority opinion and for extra good service: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/02/travel/experts-guide-to-tippin...

The highest tipping state averages 17% and the lowest averages 15%: https://qz.com/189458/the-united-states-of-tipping/

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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It's not just Uber -- I've seen tip jars out in Australian food stalls with signs exhorting patrons to tip.

I like not having to tip, too, but it's like the Prisoner's Dilemma: once somebody starts successfully collecting tips, everybody else feels pressure to ask for them and then the whole economy adjusts to accommodate them. That's how I think we got where we are.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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I still tip the normal amount when I get takeout from a restaurant that has tables.

Is this normal? I never tip for takeout..

It's not normal to tip for takeout, but if you want to, 10% is the standard tip as opposed to 15% for table service. But again, a takeout tip is not expected, especially for a simple order.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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The problem here is your cancel reflects poorly on you in Uber's rating system. But otherwise you're absolutely right. I have taken rides from two people who've called, asking for my destination, and I refuse to tell them. It hasn't caused me any problems in those two instances.

> your cancel reflects poorly on you in Uber's rating system This is simply not true. I just checked: My rating is 4.73. I've probably taken a few hundred rides with Uber. I assume they adjust ratings for bad experiences, especially if you're a regular rider. By the way: It's not that hard to get consistent 5 stars as a passenger. Be respectful of the driver and follow these steps: 1) Say something like "Hi, are you…

> This is simply not true

How could you possibly know this?

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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Except we don't get to set the wage?

You don't get to set the minimum wage, and perhaps have difficulty determining the precise wage without tips, but tips allow you to choose the maximum wage. If you knew $5 of what you paid Uber would go towards the driver for a 20 minute ride, that they had to spend a dollar of that on gasoline, and perhaps that they would need an extra 10 minutes to get home, you could estimate they earned $8 an hour. If you deemed…

Uber should pay that and it should be priced into the model. If the market is unwilling to pay then it should go under

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

#227
I drove for Uber in a resort town and was appalled by how difficult it was to make any money at it even though I was paid twice the metro rates. The biggest problem is all the unpaid work and investment Uber drivers have to make just to drive for Uber and then Uber takes a huge cut.

There are a lot of sunken costs involved in becoming an Uber driver. The driver then has to recover those costs with miserable earnings. I suspect the burn rate of Uber drivers is unsustainably high.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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Not everyone knows what's been going on with Uber lately, though. If you don't read the tech press you might have never seen it, so it's not fair to say the OP is endorsing it.

Lately? Have you read what I linked? From day 1, Uber has been of utmost evil. This is not new. Even if you somehow manage to convince yourself that weakening the rule of law by deliberately ignoring taxi legislation which has been their business model since they started with UberX is somehow not a big deal, the first time that subprime shit was reported was more than two years ago. Most of the time when I post that…

> Lately? Have you read what I linked? From day 1, Uber has been of utmost evil. This is not new.

My point is that the average user of the Uber app is not aware of any of this. They were likely recommended the app by a friend or read a vaguely fawning article in a magazine, or saw an ad online.

So it's not fair to say every Uber user endorses their behaviour. They don't know about it.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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post #25

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Not everyone knows what's been going on with Uber lately, though. If you don't read the tech press you might have never seen it, so it's not fair to say the OP is endorsing it.

Lately? Have you read what I linked? From day 1, Uber has been of utmost evil. This is not new. Even if you somehow manage to convince yourself that weakening the rule of law by deliberately ignoring taxi legislation which has been their business model since they started with UberX is somehow not a big deal, the first time that subprime shit was reported was more than two years ago. Most of the time when I post that…

> Lately? Have you read what I linked? From day 1, Uber has been of utmost evil. This is not new.

My point is that the average user of the Uber app is not aware of any of this. They were likely recommended the app by a friend or read a vaguely fawning article in a magazine, or saw an ad online.

So it's not fair to say every Uber user endorses their behaviour. They don't know about it.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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> There is universal agreement about tipping at restaurants. Tips of 15% (or 20%?) are definitely customary, expected, priced-in. People who don't leave tips after experiencing decent service are definitely not paying their fair share. Is this a joke? Not only is it not universal, it's not even customary. The agreement you have with the restaurant is this: you sit down, are served, eat food, and pay. Baseline service…

Where are you located? 15% for average service is definitely customary at sit-down restaurants in the United States.

Do you know anyone who actually works in food service? I do, and they'd be pissed if everyone skimped with a 15% tip. It's 20% for adequate service, 25% for excellent.
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