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It's because I can drive for like an hour at 9 PM when the traffic isn't bad anymore and I can make $10 an hour and I can decide when to clock out.
So you are saying it is worth it for you? So that is good?
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I drive for Uber part time even though it pays literally 8x less than my day job. It's relaxing and gives me an excuse to drive my car while someone else pays for the gas and mileage.
Are you making enough to pay for the new car you'll need after this one wears out?
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You're not taking advantage of the driver. Uber is. It's the same thing with restaurants - you're letting yourself be guilted into subsidizing a corporation's business strategy, with the justification that it's either you that gets screwed, or their employees.
That's why I always pay 15% tip at restaurants regardless of the service. I disagree with tipping (an after-the-fact unilateral contract), but we know that restaurants don't pay fair wages. EDIT: Following some comments here, I feel I need to add that I'm in Canada where 15% is considered "normal".
Uber traditionally operates on the service-included model. That was very well established before some drivers agitated for a change. Since then, Uber has adopted an inconsistent policy [https://help.uber.com/h/f7385bf5-1748-4fd0-a57f-3d9b62facc45]. In this condition, I don't believe users have any moral obligation to tip. Drivers should also have very wide expectations about whether or how much tip they will receive.
If drivers are unhappy with their Uber comp, they can drive for Lyft or on their own account or whatever. There is no need for riders to condescend to intervene in these labor disputes by bestowing tips, and in fact doing so may encourage the kind of abuse that inevitably follows the establishment of customary tipping (minimum wage exemptions and pressure for laborers to evade taxes).
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I agree. I'm consistently amazed at how many people I end up giving sub-five star ratings to these days, and I have been a huge proponent and defender of Uber in the past. If you pick me up promptly, follow your GPS, have a car that is functional, and either engage me in pleasant conversation or say nothing at all besides 'hello', I will give you five stars. Many drivers seem to act as if they are driving their frien…
> I'm consistently amazed at how many people I end up giving sub-five star ratings That in itself is possibly a contributing problem. Incentives go all wonky when four-star ratings essentially don't exist. Five-star ratings should be reserved for exceptional service, and three-star ratings should be for average service, not "I'm unhappy with this but not enough that I won't feel bad giving a negative review, so I'll…
Personally I don't care if there is no incentive to go above and beyond the base level of service. All I want and expect is the base level of service. If you want to reward epic service, do so with off the books tipping.
> It’s no secret that I love the ease and convenience of Uber and have been using the app for years. This https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13863955 is what you are supporting, then.
Not everyone knows what's been going on with Uber lately, though. If you don't read the tech press you might have never seen it, so it's not fair to say the OP is endorsing it.
Most of the time when I post that Uber is evil, people are quick to downvote. But Uber will fail despite all the stupid fawning. Now it's just a matter of time. You can run from law, you can bribe people to ride with you but eventually the law catches up with you and buries you. In this case, it's going to be Waymo but honestly, something eventually was due to happen.
Edit: hello downvoters! Any comments as to where I am wrong? Last time we did this I was told my claims are "baseless". OK, so I reposted my pile of links. What's your excuse this time?
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But tipping sucks. That was one of the reasons Uber was better than Lyft in the first place. Then some assholes sued and now Uber drivers are allowed to ask for tips. Nice job breaking it, hero.
Why does tipping suck?
Don't pay much mind, it's the HN hive mind trying to rationalize sympathy for underpaid drivers against the libertarian-ish notion that everyone is in a job like a full stack software engineer who can just walk off the job at will.
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I don't know. Maybe Uber should just pay you more and we can not encourage the antiquated custom of tipping.
Is good service and hospitably an antiquated notion? I'll happily give a bartender, server or a driver an extra buck or two when they make the experience pleasant/informative/friendly because, far too many people treat their jobs not as a privileged but a chore. Without tipping far too many would take your money for granted and the quality of service would decline across the board because there is zero incentive to p…
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I don't agree with the argument that passengers should tip because Uber isn't paying their drivers enough. That sounds like welfare for Uber. If the pay sucks, Uber should have trouble recruiting drivers.
I really hate tipping culture in America. In Germany, servers are surprised if you give them anything more thana euro. I have friends who visit from non tipping cultures who ask "Why isn't it just included in the price!" I agree with the author. Tipping is out of hand. Charge more for food, clearly state it on the menu/check, remove the tip black on the receipt and pay people a decent wage!
Locally even here in rural Idaho, one of our best local restaurants recently switched to no-tipping pricing. I'd say that as a diner, I _feel_ like I'm paying more for my meal, even though I always tipped at least 20% before the switch.
As someone who grew up in a "tipping culture" I'd say that the act of tipping doesn't bother me, so much as the pain point of having cash in the correct denominations for things like tipping Uber drivers or valets.
Curious; are Uber or Lyft drivers penalized at all for canceling? I had a Lyft driver a few weeks back call me and ask where I was, which is odd since the app tells him. Turns out he was on the wrong side of the street. Instead of just turning around, he just says "bye", hangs up and cancels the trip. Was annoying for me since I had been waiting for 10 minutes at this point but it seemed like a real poor choice on hi…
Apparently not. We had a driver the other day in Park City, UT who told us that Uber drivers are no longer held to a minimum trip acceptance rate. Whether this is true or not he said Uber lost a lawsuit and could no longer apply the rule. He then proceeded to tell us with great glee that his trick was to go offline in-between trips until the surge price hit at least a 5-6x multiplier. He would then go back online and…