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Gmail has become unusably slow

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Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

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Post by thaumaturgy »

stef25 wrote: post #114
thaumaturgy wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put together my own mail server on Linode a while back, after getting frustrated with Gmail's ridiculously limited filtering and tagging. I use RoundCube webmail, Dovecot, Postfix, managesieve, SpamAssassin, and a few custom hacks. It works great . Gmail used to have the added annoyance of making Firefox unusably slow if it was open for hours at a time; I now can have my mailbox open for days at a time with no brow…

Isn't the appeal of Gmail its slick ajax interface and the fact that mails are presented as threads?

...Both of which RoundCube does quite nicely. The threading in RoundCube isn't quite as good as Gmail, but it's plenty good enough for me.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

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Post by drusenko »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #121
stef25 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the appeal of Gmail its slick ajax interface and the fact that mails are presented as threads?

...Both of which RoundCube does quite nicely. The threading in RoundCube isn't quite as good as Gmail, but it's plenty good enough for me.

ah, yes, and when your mail server goes down for a couple hours? that's a lot of fun.

i've managed my own mail servers from ~2000 to 2008, when it practically became a full time job. i use gmail primarily for (1) the spam filter and (2) not having to worry about downtime.

[edit: and on another note, roundcube development is PAINFULLY slow...]

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

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Post by palyndrome »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18
jkincaid wrote: post #8

The Gmail team is most definitely aware of this and a fix is in the works. At SXSW this year there was a panel with four or five Gmail team members and this came up — they said it's related to the size of your inbox, and that it has a lot of Googlers complaining internally too, since many of them have the oldest/large accounts. Also see http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/gmail-slow/ , though it has basically the same i…

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

> Is my account on an old infrastructure?

I'm starting to wonder about that too - I've discussed this with a bunch of people recently, and those of us who are seeing the really awful performance (>30 second wait times for basic operations like sending a mail) seem to be mainly early adopters.

Personally, I'm using Google Apps "Premiere" which I initially purchased about a month after launch.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

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Post by thaumaturgy »

drusenko wrote: post #123
thaumaturgy wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Both of which RoundCube does quite nicely. The threading in RoundCube isn't quite as good as Gmail, but it's plenty good enough for me.

ah, yes, and when your mail server goes down for a couple hours? that's a lot of fun. i've managed my own mail servers from ~2000 to 2008, when it practically became a full time job. i use gmail primarily for (1) the spam filter and (2) not having to worry about downtime. [edit: and on another note, roundcube development is PAINFULLY slow...]

Once I got the basic configuration and initial stuff down, the mail server's uptime has been ... hmm. Pretty damn close to 100% I think. I think there was an outage a bit back, but that one was my fault. I dicked up one of the databases or something.

On the flip side, I never have to worry about missing email. Like, for example, the time (yesterday) that I tried to send code samples from a WP exploit that did a neat job of turning the web server into an IRC-controlled zombie via a fun little Perl script. The person I was sending them to had a Gmail address.

Guess who never received the files? (And wasn't notified, either...)

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

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Post by KERMIT »

knome wrote: post #74
epi0Bauqu wrote: post #40

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Click send and stare at a modal still working... for 30sec. This is not subjective.

A computer is fast when the computer is waiting on you. A computer is slow when you are waiting on the computer.

There's no excuse for a modern mail client, regardless of how it's implemented, to take 30 seconds just to open the display that's used for composing an email. Yes, that's how slow GMail is for some of us.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

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Post by tybris »

Well, at least it works. When I open it in Chrome I get:

The webpage at https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&#3... has resulted in too many redirects. Clearing your cookies for this site or allowing third-party cookies may fix the problem. If not, it is possibly a server configuration issue and not a problem with your computer.

(and of course, clearing cookies does not work)

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

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Post by bigstorm »

PStamatiou wrote: post #113
nooneelse wrote: post #90

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"I would personally rather pay a fee and keep my data private and not see ads." I thought that one could do that with a Premier Edition Google Apps account.

Yes they can. I have been on Google Apps Premier for 2 or 3 years now.

Yes although Apps Premier comes with a price, it has many other features including ad free mails. You get less spam too
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