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At some point we should stop calling them investors and start calling them what they really are: idiots.
So I've personally made 6 figures on TSLA. If I'm an idiot, what does that make someone who thought they were smarter than someone who would invest in TSLA? Here's the thing about investment: whether you're playing the long or short game, the only way you make money is through stock volatility. And as far as volatility is concerned, TSLA has been fantastic to play over and over again.
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#172My big question is, why? It seems they are selling vehicles. Are they in trouble or is this just to expand business?
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
So I've personally made 6 figures on TSLA. If I'm an idiot, what does that make someone who thought they were smarter than someone who would invest in TSLA? Here's the thing about investment: whether you're playing the long or short game, the only way you make money is through stock volatility. And as far as volatility is concerned, TSLA has been fantastic to play over and over again.
The comment I replied to talked about Uber, not TSLA. I can't understand your need to brag about how much money you made, but yeah, it would be cool if you could read first.
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Can you explain why do you consider AP2 to be a downgrade from AP1? I thought it's everything AP1 has + more.
Supposedly that's the case, but since they switched away from Mobile Eye they are still trying to reach feature parity with AP1 at this point. It was supposed to take 2 months, but viola, 6 months later they are still struggling and there are many YouTube videos out there showing how terrible and unsafe it is. It still lack many features of AP1 such as automatic lane changing and blind spot detection at this point. L…
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I like this idea too. Because battery positioning within a car is quite important (at least what have read about the teslas it is) there could be a smaller 100km (60 mi) range swappable battery that is easy to remove and replace.
It might even be feasible to have a system like a drive-through carwash, that instead lifts specially compatible EV's, remove the old battery "strip" from the lower portion of the car, and then install a new one. If it could get down to 3-5 minutes, especially if your car could interface with the "hut" so you don't need to be in it...
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He's clearly a very smart man, which means that he understands the challenges which are known (cognitive decline from radiation, no material suitable for shielding, incomplete understanding of human microbiome, etc...) and the impossibility of his stated goal to establish a human colony on Mars anytime soon. He's positioned for LEO cargo, and in the longer-term (I suspect) for potentially surveying and mining asteroi…
I think you need to listen to more of his interviews, look over his plans, examine his side businesses... They are all remarkably consistent with a long term vision he lays out years in advance of any business dealings. For example, The Boring Company is his exploration of what they can do on mars to avoid radiation and create habitats. His mars beliefs go back years. I hope this doesn't apply to you, but I feel real…
He's made some interesting points about using Mars to shield from radiation, but it doesn't matter because they'd be cooked before they ever arrived. Worse, it seems that radiation is going to have an impact on cognition, which is just about the worst thing you can imagine. Dying in your 50's from cancer is tragic, but dying because you stopped thinking clearly before your mission ever truly begins? Wasteful.
The notion of using water as a shielding works at first glance, but then you realize that you'd need a looooot of it, and that you've kicked the problematic can. Now your biggest concern shifts to micro-impacts, which no longer just erode your armor (you'll need armor... expensive as it will be to lift, you'll need it), but open your radiation shielding to vacuum. Presumably you'd have some means to circulate the water through the outer crew quarters, so large parts suddenly freezing and slowly sublimating away strike me as catastrophic.
What we need is a material that is incredibly strong, durable, manages thermal stress, and which can shield against all kinds of radiation (without just cooking the poor bastards with gamma rays secondary to the incident radiation). That material need to be light enough that lifting it into orbit doesn't bankrupt any potential operation, and frankly... no such material exists.
That is just one problem.
Edit: To be clear, I don't think that Elon Musk being something other than altruistic, is for example, malevolent. I think of all the arena in which he could have acted, he chose ones that were potentially beneficial to the species. Not being altruistic doesn't mean that you have to be terrible... most of us aren't altruistic.
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#177If I were to make a computer analogy, I would probably say that Tesla in having to deliver the Model 3, is right at the point IBM was when they were finishing up the IBM 360 series: it will be a make or break product release for them. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/us/en/icons/system3... quote from Thomas J Watson Jr.: “The expense of the project was indeed staggering. We spent three quarters of a billion d…
Reading about the S/360 is insane...no one makes investments like that anymore. This would be the equivalent of Intel or someone spending $40 billion dollars on engineering the and the infrastructure needed to build a quantum computer today. (What's interesting is that they would survive even if the expense didn't pan out, but no large successful company would ever do this today.)
That's an immense spend by IBM, however lots of big companies spend in the 11 figures on projects.
Exxon is spending $20 billion in the next five years to expand its oil refining and chemical operations along the gulf coast.
Las Vegas Sands is planning to spend at least $10 billion just to build its Japanese operation.
Verizon spent $25 billion or so over 12 years trying to build out FiOS.
Wanda Group in China is spending $15 billion to build a Disney park competitor.
Apple's total cost every time it builds a new iPhone is in the tens of billions including its ahead-of-time purchasing commitments.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might even be feasible to have a system like a drive-through carwash, that instead lifts specially compatible EV's, remove the old battery "strip" from the lower portion of the car, and then install a new one. If it could get down to 3-5 minutes, especially if your car could interface with the "hut" so you don't need to be in it...
Elon Musk demoed Tesla's battery swapping capability a few years back: https://youtu.be/FE81S26XG8c . I'm not sure if it's gone live at any supercharging stations yet. Maybe someone else can confirm rollout or not.
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#179Disclaimer up front: I work for a Tesla competitor. If I were a Tesla investor I'd want to hear more about how Design for Automation is going. If you plan to automate vehicle assembly in a cost effective manner (as Musk has indicated), your components and your assembly operations must be designed for that automation. Tesla has had notable problems getting suppliers to understand and implement their plans (BorgWarner?…
Their agility in comparison to GM is communicated very well. At least they tackle innovative moonshot projects, it motivates people to give their best. In other companies the ones innovating are the minority and people dwell on past successes. I'd rather work at an innovative company than for GM.
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At some point we should stop calling them investors and start calling them what they really are: idiots.
So I've personally made 6 figures on TSLA. If I'm an idiot, what does that make someone who thought they were smarter than someone who would invest in TSLA? Here's the thing about investment: whether you're playing the long or short game, the only way you make money is through stock volatility. And as far as volatility is concerned, TSLA has been fantastic to play over and over again.