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Thanks Daniel, sorry for circulating a draft post early.
GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
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Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#162Somewhat off topic, but I was once very interested in working for GitLab. According to their compensation calculator, though, I'd be making less than half what I make now (also working remotely). They ding me for living in a comparatively low cost area. I'm surprised they are able to attract talent to achieve what they have done so far. It makes me worry somewhat about my future prospects in an increasingly globalize…
I'm also turned off by remote companies that do the same. I work remote and moved to a very low-cost area. That doesn't mean I want a massive pay cut.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a bad principle to run both countries and companies.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#163@sytse - this is huge. You can move the YC internal slack to gitter as well ;) But seriously - people are willing to throw money for an enterprise gitter - especially after https://medium.freecodecamp.com/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-w... Look at the number of people begging Discord to take money from them - https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-... gitter always had search working - discord just…
Thanks Sandeep. We assume that it is easier to charge money to enterprises than open source communities. If we see strong adoption and feature requests from the enterprise we'll consider adopting an open-core model and charging for it. For now the adoption is mainly from open source communities and we think of our costs as a marketing expense. Do you know of any enterprises using Gitter?
No - because, like discord, gitter makes it a point to make privacy very hard to set up. This is fairly deliberate and is the reason why enterprises have a hard time adopting it.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#164Somewhat off topic, but I was once very interested in working for GitLab. According to their compensation calculator, though, I'd be making less than half what I make now (also working remotely). They ding me for living in a comparatively low cost area. I'm surprised they are able to attract talent to achieve what they have done so far. It makes me worry somewhat about my future prospects in an increasingly globalize…
I had an interesting interview with one of their recruiters in which within the first 5 minutes I was asked to agree to compensation below what their calculator (which was a part of the job posting) indicated was their pay scale for my location and that position. I was told my resume wouldn't be passed to an engineering lead until I had (in writing) agreed to the lower salary range. Liiike why even... Edit: Didn't in…
be nice this is my first comment in Hacker News :D
Interestingly issues gets noticed here!, there was a posting yesterday about FB hiring issue.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#165"Next piece of wow: we will be open sourcing all of the Gitter" The Gitlab folks really know how to do it. It is of course the rational approach to it, but still, that's a bold move.
For us it was natural to open the source code, we prefer to work that way. All our source code is publicly viewable and most of it is open source.
> All our source code is publicly viewable
Not all of it. version.gitlab.com is one of GitLab's closed source IPs.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think even public companies often disclose the prices though, especially for major ones. This being said, I have been thinking about the GitLab IPO, including things like fixing Reg FD for a while now.
> I think even public companies often disclose the prices though, "Even public companies"? Public companies are required to report a lot of financial information publicly that non-public companies are neither required to report nor in the habit of reporting.
The point is there probably won't be much problem in disclosing this info and they will likely have to do so after they IPO anyway.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#167What the heck is Gitter? A public chat service? Sounds like adding yet a new way for people to bug you about things that don't work, but without the controlled discussion of opening a proper Issue. As a developer or maintainer, what value does this bring to a project?
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#168What the heck is Gitter? A public chat service? Sounds like adding yet a new way for people to bug you about things that don't work, but without the controlled discussion of opening a proper Issue. As a developer or maintainer, what value does this bring to a project?
It ties chats to Github repos/issues. I've never had any luck with clicking on one. IRC is much more useful in my opinion. I suppose they could make it work in some fashion, but opening an issue should suffice...
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks Sandeep. We assume that it is easier to charge money to enterprises than open source communities. If we see strong adoption and feature requests from the enterprise we'll consider adopting an open-core model and charging for it. For now the adoption is mainly from open source communities and we think of our costs as a marketing expense. Do you know of any enterprises using Gitter?
No - because, like discord, gitter makes it a point to make privacy very hard to set up. This is fairly deliberate and is the reason why enterprises have a hard time adopting it.
Why not use Mattermost for something like this? We ship it with GitLab Omnibus and it's open core.
EDIT: Previously said open source, open core is the correct term.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#170@sytse - this is huge. You can move the YC internal slack to gitter as well ;) But seriously - people are willing to throw money for an enterprise gitter - especially after https://medium.freecodecamp.com/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-w... Look at the number of people begging Discord to take money from them - https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-... gitter always had search working - discord just…
> people are willing to throw money for an enterprise gitter Isn't that just Slack?
The point of the first link is that free Gitter is already better than free Slack, so companies would be willing pay to have guaranteed support/uptime/etc from Gitter.