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Re: Ask HN: Which Berkeley Courses Should I Archive?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm downvoting you because you're not engaging with the arguments of those who disagree with you, and therefore not adding to the discussion. It's clear that one can both agree with "you can't always be 100% utilitarian", and that accommodation is good, and still think this particular application of it is not an optimal resolution. Simply repeating back that "we need to accommodate the disabled" is not responding to…

>I'm downvoting you because you're not engaging with the arguments of those who disagree with you, and therefore not adding to the discussion. I am in two separate threads. My question was in this thread, where I was downvoted with no response . I cannot engage with arguments that are not put forth. >It's clear that one can both agree with "you can't always be 100% utilitarian", and that accommodation is good, and st…

Okay, to clarify, you are making two different arguments in two differently places; I am saying that neither adds to the discussion, and I only focused on the more interesting one. The arguments were

1) "The law says ... ." Okay, this thread (as well as the previous discussions) wasn't speaking to the issue of whether it's a technically correct application of the law, but whether it's stupid for the law to require something like this. Hence, not adding to the discussion, at least where you added it.

2) "We should accommodate the disabled even when it fails a simple cost/benefit test." The others side already agrees with you! Hence why it's frustrating to hear you keep claiming that "golly, it just comes down to utililitarianism vs caring about the disabled; some of us have a little sympathy" -- no, those ones who disagree with you do support accommodations for the disabled, even at the cost of the greater good, just not this one, when it's impact is to make the materials less available, as it puts UCB in a "no good deed goes unpunished" situation.

I have yet to see you attempt to address that argument beyond "yep, some of us want to help the disabled". That adds nothing.

>>Note that you have yet to answer even the challenge I presented in this thread: are you opposed to the private hosting of these videos?

>Can you supply me with a reason to answer that, when I do not have an opinion on UCB's decision?

I just gave it in the original thread. If you support forcing the accommodation requirements on materials given for free, which results in Berkeley taking the materials down, then you're saying that "it's okay to release these materials as long as you back-channel it". That does not sound like it logically follows from a coherent policy to support the disabled.

That is why I don't think your comments built onto the existing discussion.

Re: Ask HN: Which Berkeley Courses Should I Archive?

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I deeply apologize if this is off topic, but this request highlights an issue with the original debate, where posters were tripping over each others to express indignation about Berkeley releasing these videos without disability accommodations, reiterating the same arguments for the ADA, and asserting that those same considerations apply here. If you thought the judgment against Berkeley was justified-- that they cou…

The ADA already reconciles these viewpoints, by allowing for people who would otherwise be in violation to claim exemption because complying would cause an undue burden. So we shouldn't expect a random person on the internet to pay for captioning 20,000 videos, because that would be (presumably) ridiculously outside their means. On the other hand, it's reasonable to assume that a university that could recently afford…

And yet, it does nothing to a university that simply takes down the free materials rather than pay that much more to host them. That doesn't seem like it's reconciling anything, beyond "yep, we're okay with the absurd implications".

Re: Ask HN: Which Berkeley Courses Should I Archive?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He mentioned private videos on YouTube, not the iTunes.

Yes, and the person you are replying to is pointing out there are videos on iTunes that aren't on YouTube. So if someone wants to fully archive the content, then the iTunes videos also need to be archived.

Yes, but did you read The Archive Team initiative? They are aware of the iTunes courses, but they aren't of the private YouTube videos.

Re: Ask HN: Which Berkeley Courses Should I Archive?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and the person you are replying to is pointing out there are videos on iTunes that aren't on YouTube. So if someone wants to fully archive the content, then the iTunes videos also need to be archived.

Yes, but did you read The Archive Team initiative? They are aware of the iTunes courses, but they aren't of the private YouTube videos.

No one (including my parent comment) equated the private YouTube videos with the iTunes videos.

Re: Ask HN: Which Berkeley Courses Should I Archive?

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Not CS related, but I've found these courses to be of great value: - Sociology 150A (Robb Willer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfKMAePWfE - Geography C110 (Richard Walker) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYR5PdPZ_w0&list=PL4rxxS6x1H... - Physics 10: Physics for Future Presidents (Richard Muller) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ysbZ_j2xi0 There's also an audio course on Buddhist Psychology by Eleanor Rosch, if yo…

Is there a chance that you or somebody you know have a copy of the Buddhist Psychology by Eleanor Rosch you mentioned? It seems like the archival efforts missed this one. Thank you.
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