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Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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will oracle be around in 10-20 years? will red hat? which will experience growth?

All things being equal it would take red hat ~30 quarters to make 2bn dollars, or roughly 7 years. 7 years to make what Oracle makes in a quarter. I don't really have a dog in this fight but just FYI I think you missed ops point.

I thought we didn't care about cash flows when valuing tech companies, just growth prospects ;)

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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The relationship between EnterpriseDB and the at-large Postgres community has always intrigued me. Why do they turn over to the community what they could make part of their proprietary fork? Maybe they make a lot of money consulting and not just licenses and general at-large adoption is good for that side of business.

I have never used EnterpriseDB and I am only aware of it from a distance but it has always struck me as the ideal open source arrangement. Sure, EnterpriseDB is never going to have the revenue numbers of Oracle but their management and business teams should have a much easier time sleeping at night. I think it is great that EnterpriseDB has identified that it is better for their company to exist as part of a healthy…

> but their management and business teams should have a much easier time sleeping at night

Why? What is Oracle doing so wrong that they cant sleep as well at night?

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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The relationship between EnterpriseDB and the at-large Postgres community has always intrigued me. Why do they turn over to the community what they could make part of their proprietary fork? Maybe they make a lot of money consulting and not just licenses and general at-large adoption is good for that side of business.

This is a very common model now - several companies have open-source software (either their own or major contributor to) that is then covered with extra functionality, support and consulting services.

Some tradeoffs since the products are usually not as good and move slower than proprietary commercial offerings but the free access and large communities make up for it.

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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Citus should already be saturating i/o during a scan unless you're only hitting one shard. What am I missing about your use case?

We shard our data by customer and individual queries touch only data for one customer. We do split a customer's data into multiple shards, but the number of shards we would need to split each customer into is not worth the overhead of maintaining that many shards.

Why? Is this a security issue? If you're sharing the same distributed table then sharding by customer is limiting the number of nodes/scans in parallel that can run.

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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All things being equal it would take red hat ~30 quarters to make 2bn dollars, or roughly 7 years. 7 years to make what Oracle makes in a quarter. I don't really have a dog in this fight but just FYI I think you missed ops point.

RedHat contributes to the common good, Oracle for a few millionaires. Therefore they create more value.

Does developing MySQL and Java somehow not contribute to the common good?

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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RedHat contributes to the common good, Oracle for a few millionaires. Therefore they create more value.

Does developing MySQL and Java somehow not contribute to the common good?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/16/oracle_targets_java_...

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RedHat contributes to the common good, Oracle for a few millionaires. Therefore they create more value.

Does developing MySQL and Java somehow not contribute to the common good?

FWIW my feeling is that Oracle has made a net negative contribution to the Java ecosystem.

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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Well, Red Hat have demonstrated you can make a lot of money by open sourcing things (including buying proprietary software like ManageIQ and oVirt and open sourcing it). Given that EDB has ex-RHAT folks involved in setting it up, I imagine they're trying to replay the model.

RedHat Q4 FY2016 profit: $68M Oracle Q4 FY2016 profit: $2B

You do realize you're comparing an amalgamation of software companies to a Linux distribution vendor, right? Oracle hasn't just been a database company for ... probably decades.

Re: PostgreSQL Parallel Query v2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Red Hat have demonstrated you can make a lot of money by open sourcing things (including buying proprietary software like ManageIQ and oVirt and open sourcing it). Given that EDB has ex-RHAT folks involved in setting it up, I imagine they're trying to replay the model.

RedHat Q4 FY2016 profit: $68M Oracle Q4 FY2016 profit: $2B

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