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Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by nodesocket »

jedberg wrote: post #27
nodesocket wrote: post #19

I'm calling this: after attending Google Cloud Next last week, and seeing the huge improvements to GCP in the last 18 months, I am supremely confident that AWS should be worried about Google as a legitimate competitor. $GOOG is betting big on GCP, and they are executing at a very high level releasing iterative products and new features. I'm recommending GCP for all my clients (shameless plug https://elasticbyte.net )…

Most folks on HN are part of the startup crowd, and what that crowd misses is that while GCP is technically superior in every way, they have no idea how to sell to an enterprise. Google's sales method is, "There's the docs, good luck". Enterprises don't like that. They like to be hand held, they like lots of humans taking them out for lunches and dinners. So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how…

> So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how to enterprise, and in fact it's fairly counter-cultural for them.

While traditionally true with Google Products, I disagree with Cloud. Did you attend Google Cloud Next? Trust me, they are focusing on enterprises. Their support has improved significantly and they are focusing on business cases (costs, management, audit, security).

I am certain the Google Cloud Next conference in a few years will look just as enterprise as AWS re:Invent.

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by saturnism »

aviraldg wrote: post #28
saturnism wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's actually here: https://pi.delivery/demo/ but we didn't have time to make it look nice :(

Is that a standard template you're using for the website?

not standard, but browsed through jekyll templates - this one fit our needs the most: https://github.com/CloudCannon/aviator-jekyll-template

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by jedberg »

nodesocket wrote: post #31
jedberg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most folks on HN are part of the startup crowd, and what that crowd misses is that while GCP is technically superior in every way, they have no idea how to sell to an enterprise. Google's sales method is, "There's the docs, good luck". Enterprises don't like that. They like to be hand held, they like lots of humans taking them out for lunches and dinners. So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how…

> So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how to enterprise, and in fact it's fairly counter-cultural for them. While traditionally true with Google Products, I disagree with Cloud. Did you attend Google Cloud Next? Trust me, they are focusing on enterprises. Their support has improved significantly and they are focusing on business cases (costs, management, audit, security). I am certain the Googl…

I did attend briefly, and I got a run down from some enterprise folks. They said Google appears to be thinking about making an effort towards enterprise, but they aren't there yet.

Also, they don't have a sales force like Amazon. A bunch of non-engineer humans who do nothing but convince other people to buy their product. They are still trying to solve human problems with engineering, and sales is a tough nut to crack for a computer, even a really strong AI. :)

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by jacquesm »

nodesocket wrote: post #19

I'm calling this: after attending Google Cloud Next last week, and seeing the huge improvements to GCP in the last 18 months, I am supremely confident that AWS should be worried about Google as a legitimate competitor. $GOOG is betting big on GCP, and they are executing at a very high level releasing iterative products and new features. I'm recommending GCP for all my clients (shameless plug https://elasticbyte.net )…

Without functioning customer support all that is moot.

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by nodesocket »

jacquesm wrote: post #34
nodesocket wrote: post #19

I'm calling this: after attending Google Cloud Next last week, and seeing the huge improvements to GCP in the last 18 months, I am supremely confident that AWS should be worried about Google as a legitimate competitor. $GOOG is betting big on GCP, and they are executing at a very high level releasing iterative products and new features. I'm recommending GCP for all my clients (shameless plug https://elasticbyte.net )…

Without functioning customer support all that is moot.

But they have support and it is actually awesome. What support plan are you on? Silver, Gold?

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by ma2rten »

jedberg wrote: post #33
nodesocket wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how to enterprise, and in fact it's fairly counter-cultural for them. While traditionally true with Google Products, I disagree with Cloud. Did you attend Google Cloud Next? Trust me, they are focusing on enterprises. Their support has improved significantly and they are focusing on business cases (costs, management, audit, security). I am certain the Googl…

I did attend briefly, and I got a run down from some enterprise folks. They said Google appears to be thinking about making an effort towards enterprise, but they aren't there yet. Also, they don't have a sales force like Amazon. A bunch of non-engineer humans who do nothing but convince other people to buy their product. They are still trying to solve human problems with engineering, and sales is a tough nut to crac…

At my last job I actually talked to a sales person from Google who tried really hard to get us to move to GCP.

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by alcari »

Here's the requisite cynical comment lamenting the death of "standards".

They could easily have implemented RFC 3091 [0], but instead they chose to create yet another proprietary API with vendor lock in, just as cloud service providers love to do.

[0]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3091

/s

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by jedberg »

ma2rten wrote: post #36
jedberg wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did attend briefly, and I got a run down from some enterprise folks. They said Google appears to be thinking about making an effort towards enterprise, but they aren't there yet. Also, they don't have a sales force like Amazon. A bunch of non-engineer humans who do nothing but convince other people to buy their product. They are still trying to solve human problems with engineering, and sales is a tough nut to crac…

At my last job I actually talked to a sales person from Google who tried really hard to get us to move to GCP.

Did they succeed?

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by ma2rten »

rascoe wrote: post #30
Guest98123 wrote: post #23

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Whether you're on Amazon or Google, one thing is certain, we're going to have some amazing services and options available due to the competition between the two, and both of them fighting for market share. I'm on AWS at the moment, and I'm in no hurry to jump ship, because I know Amazon is going to be forced to stay competitive with comparable services and pricing. In 3 or 5 years, if there's a clear winner, I'll mak…

I don't think switching will be the answer, but rather federation. We are currently deploying new services on Kubernetes and we can run isolated Kubernetes clusters on either GCP (not just GKE), or on AWS. While we aren't to the point of using cluster federation for production yet, this is the next logical step. I see a, not to distant, future where we have cluster federation across on premise, GCP, and AWS clusters.…

Is it practical to replicate your data between clouds?

Re: Google Cloud Platform’s Pi API – With access to 750B digits of Pi

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Post by nodesocket »

jedberg wrote: post #33
nodesocket wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how to enterprise, and in fact it's fairly counter-cultural for them. While traditionally true with Google Products, I disagree with Cloud. Did you attend Google Cloud Next? Trust me, they are focusing on enterprises. Their support has improved significantly and they are focusing on business cases (costs, management, audit, security). I am certain the Googl…

I did attend briefly, and I got a run down from some enterprise folks. They said Google appears to be thinking about making an effort towards enterprise, but they aren't there yet. Also, they don't have a sales force like Amazon. A bunch of non-engineer humans who do nothing but convince other people to buy their product. They are still trying to solve human problems with engineering, and sales is a tough nut to crac…

> Also, they don't have a sales force like Amazon. A bunch of non-engineer humans who do nothing but convince other people to buy their product.

Here's the catch, the "bunch of non-engineer humans" as you called them are not stupid though. All around these people are watching the landscape and market. They are aware that GCP has a superior pricing structure and can be up to 50% cheaper[1]. Therefore my theory is that GCP can continue to offer lower prices, greater governance, superior performance, and solid support, and their (sales+engineering) force can be in-bound driven instead of out-bound like AWS.

[1] - https://thehftguy.com/2016/11/18/google-cloud-is-50-cheaper-...

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