Keep the Internet Open
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Keep the Internet Open
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Re: Keep the Internet Open
#2I'm afraid we can't do the SOPA/PIPA protests again :(
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#3> You wouldn't accept your electric company charging you different rates for each of your appliances.
I can get cheaper electricity for my water heater if I choose to attach it to a source that can be interrupted at times of peak load. I'm not quite sure this line of reasoning will stand.
Edit: It appears the linked article has been updated since I originally posted this. The new text is:
> You wouldn't accept your electric company charging you different rates depending on the manufacturer of each of your appliances.
This makes the argument much clearer and my concerns no longer seem important.
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#4I'm afraid we can't do the SOPA/PIPA protests again :(
The enemies of the open internet only have to win once, but to fend them off we have to win every single time. SOPA/PIPA protests had a lot of momentum, and they "won", but within weeks the same intrusive, anti-consumer practices were injected into some other bill that just got pushed through anyways.
I just don't see how we can win. Not without some seriously strong top-down consumer protection laws. Net neutrality needs to solidify into law, and get some serious teeth. And I'm talking Amendment-level protections, not something the next chump-in-chief can come along and pull the rug out from under like they're doing with health care right now.
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#5> You wouldn't accept your electric company charging you different rates for each of your appliances. I can get cheaper electricity for my water heater if I choose to attach it to a source that can be interrupted at times of peak load. I'm not quite sure this line of reasoning will stand. Edit: It appears the linked article has been updated since I originally posted this. The new text is: > You wouldn't accept your e…
Presumably they wouldn't care which appliance you attach? The same deal would make total sense with e.g a smart charger for an electric car (in fact anything else would be nuts) and probably anything else with a big enough battery. If the difference between the two rates you are charged is large enough it may even make sense to have a battery and switch between the cheap source and the normal one if the cheap one is cut of.
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#6Interesting reviewing the list of organizations that signed the letter sent to the FCC by the ACLU & EFF on keeping the internet open:
http://www.commoncause.org/policy-and-litigation/letters-to-...
Really makes you wonder what's going on, since Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc. are nowhere to be found on the list.
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#7> You wouldn't accept your electric company charging you different rates for each of your appliances. I can get cheaper electricity for my water heater if I choose to attach it to a source that can be interrupted at times of peak load. I'm not quite sure this line of reasoning will stand. Edit: It appears the linked article has been updated since I originally posted this. The new text is: > You wouldn't accept your e…
Your comparison is invalid. Consumers generally tolerate that network management for some things is ok, for example, constraining the transfer speed of users at peak times.
This is a different scenario - the comparable scenario would be that your electricity company charges you a variable rate depending on which manufacturers appliances you buy, for example, if you buy and use only samsung appliances, you get a cheaper rate (and the electric company gets a kickback from samsung).
When you pay for an internet connection the only practical matter that I expect my ISP to care about is the speed I expect to get, the latency of the network, and the volume of traffic I am permitted over a period. Everything else is a congestion issue, and if they are going to manage what I can access to and modify the parameters of my connection based on resources I access, I am not buying Internet access, I am buying access to a curated online service.
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#8> You wouldn't accept your electric company charging you different rates for each of your appliances. I can get cheaper electricity for my water heater if I choose to attach it to a source that can be interrupted at times of peak load. I'm not quite sure this line of reasoning will stand. Edit: It appears the linked article has been updated since I originally posted this. The new text is: > You wouldn't accept your e…
Presumably they wouldn't care which appliance you attach? The same deal would make total sense with e.g a smart charger for an electric car (in fact anything else would be nuts) and probably anything else with a big enough battery. If the difference between the two rates you are charged is large enough it may even make sense to have a battery and switch between the cheap source and the normal one if the cheap one is…
I can imagine peak/off hour internet pricing, and that does sound reasonable to me as long as the overall rates are reasonable. There's no way people would go for the ridiculous per-GB rates mobile companies are charging right now, for instance.
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#10Ajit Pai is public enemy number one.