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Confessions of a Watch Geek

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I'm not a watch geek, but I do love them. The thing I love the most is they are quite unique in the sense they can be passed through the generations and become more than an object. The watch my grandfather gave to me before he passed away is, and will always be one of my most prized material possessions, which I also hope to pass down to my children one day too. It's why a fitbit, apple watch or the like will never d…

I still remember getting my first paycheck after graduating and buying a Breitling 15 years ago because I liked the logo. And got a cheaper Rolex when I started my first company. We were watching a TV show where someone gets a Patek as a gift and told my significant other that's a really expensive watch. She had no idea. Then I went onto explain how cool different mechanical watches are because you can hear the diffe…

This was a sad story :(

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I collect, and repair watches. I usually like stories about watches, and the people who cherish them, but not today. I'm just in a weird mood? This popped out, and made me cringe:

"Mechanical watches are far less accurate than quartz watches, but often far more expensive, because their bearings are more intricate. All contemporary Rolex watches, for example, are mechanical."

1. They are not more expensive because of the synthetic rubies that are called jewels. They are more expensive because of the name, and marketing.

2. I've noticed a lot of guys under 35 just arn't into mechanical watches. I do get it. And women--just arn't into watches at all. I don't know why, but sometimes I think it's because we die so early.

3. As it stands now, a guy could go out and spend 10 grand on a watch. The second it goes out of warranty, and needs a service, or a part; it has to go back to the factory, and is repaired at factory prices. Prices like $800 for a mainspring, and service.

4. See the watch comapnies decided to not sell parts to Watch Repair people(like myself), or even a customer.

5. It's like buying a vechicle, and when it breaks down; you need to take it to the dealership.

6. They claim it's for quality assurance, but it's a money grab. In my American eyes it violates The Sherman Anti-trust Act. Yes--a federal lawyer/Investigator agreed, but didn't feel it wasn't worth doing much about. She said someting like, 'It's a wealthy person's problem, and not on my todo list." All the while, those politicians are wearing Rolexes?

7. The bigger watch houses have consolidated. Swatch owns many of the high end watches you see out there. Rolex is separate. I believe Rolex even own the company that provides the oil to those fancy watches. It's called Moebius oil. And they want it used on all their watches.

8. If you get into watches that's fine. It can be addicting. Would I ever buy a new watch I could not work on, nor buy parts for--hell no!

9. If the Watch Industry reads this, your customer base has changed. Lower your prices, and enough to with the games. Customers are tired of the maximum 20% discount you require your boutiques to stick to. They are tired of being told a grey market watch bought at Costco is not really a Rolex, and you won't even honor the warranty. They are not the uninformed Dongle heads of the past. Don't insult their intelligence--they are all carring around a smart phone that tells the time.

10. My parting words are this. I still love my old watches. I hope more young people get into the industry and Shake things up. There something very gratifying about resurrecting an old watch found on eBay. I went from collecting to repairing, and there's definetly a shift of attitude when you know what's under the hood. My everyday watch is a watch I found in a thrift store. Years ago, the lady behind the counrt said the old Timex is $2.00. I took it home and it set on my desk for 5 years. One night I noticed a little fish on the crown. I thought, why would Times brand the crown? I opened it up, and it was a IWC 853. All the markings on the dial were gone. I served it, and wear it proudly. People think it's a cheap watch, and I don't care. I can wear it to the worst parts of the city, and never worry about theft. I look at that chalky dial, and it just makes me feel good. Knowing how to repair it feels better. Sorry about the lenght of this post--depressed, or something?

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Excellent article. I've always loved watches, but not as much as tech. I've got several beautiful watches, and one of them I'll wear at my wedding probably. Every other day of my life it's currently the Garmin Vivoactiv HR.

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The reddit/r/watches community is pretty active with a wide range of watches (automatic and fashion). Good resources to find quality watches and avoid marketing hype.

I admit, I love the smooth movement of the second hand on an automatic watch. My sister-in-law got me my first automatic and I thought it was broken....until I put it on.

They are tiny feats of precision engineering, even the cheap ones. I'm partial to a Seiko Men's SNK807 Seiko 5.

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I collect, and repair watches. I usually like stories about watches, and the people who cherish them, but not today. I'm just in a weird mood? This popped out, and made me cringe: "Mechanical watches are far less accurate than quartz watches, but often far more expensive, because their bearings are more intricate. All contemporary Rolex watches, for example, are mechanical." 1. They are not more expensive because of…

> I don't know why, but sometimes I think it's because we die so early.

I'm not into watches for the same reason I'm not into faberge eggs, or necklaces, or collecting sneakers: I do not need them for any practical purpose, and I am not particularly entranced by the aesthetics. (Plus, it's then just another accessory I have to keep in mind in the morning, another item I have to maintain, another _thing_ that I don't _need_.)

I think I understand what you mean about cars, especially about not buying a watch you couldn't work on. It's a combination of a hobby and a collection - it doesn't have to be practical, but it's also not going to suit everyone.

And we don't die early. We're living longer than ever. Or do you mean the philosophical sense of a human's brief lifespan in the face of universal, geological and historical time?

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I'm a big fan of mechanical watches, but I think the market nowadays is too much about limited editions and unnecessary flamboyance. How many different "limited" Omegan Moon Watches are there, for example?

The mid-to-high-end watch market (in the $1K-50K range) is going through a _major_ crisis right now. For past several years they've been aggressively raising prices due to steady Chinese demand, which now has been all but extinguished by a combination of several factors. So the watchmakers are now is a pickle of situation - watches are massively over-priced, their "normal" customers are well aware of that, but they c…

Interesting. It seems that the luxury image is more a burden than an advantage to many manufacturers. But the brand ownership is concentrated and the owners might not care about those kind of difficulties.

I'm more of a fan of utilitarian watches anyways. Sinn for example makes very affordable tool watches that are also technologically on par with many luxury brands.

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I collect, and repair watches. I usually like stories about watches, and the people who cherish them, but not today. I'm just in a weird mood? This popped out, and made me cringe: "Mechanical watches are far less accurate than quartz watches, but often far more expensive, because their bearings are more intricate. All contemporary Rolex watches, for example, are mechanical." 1. They are not more expensive because of…

Speaking as a long-term collector of mechanicals, I dunno how true a lot of this is for the broad market.

First, an ENORMOUS chunk of the middle-high end are watches with ETA (or other well-understood mass market) movements in them, and not just models from the Swatch Group[1]. Any reasonable-sized city has a watchmaker who can repair one of those. Sure, if you bought a super-fancy watch festooned with complications for tens of thousands of dollars, you probably need to go to a dealer who may ship it back to Switzerland, but that's the exception.

Second, even the in-house movements used by some makes (Rolex especially) are well-understood by non-dealer/non-manufacturer watchmakers. The mainspring on my 1977 Rolex broke a couple years ago; a local fellow I trust replaced it for $200, and that included a thorough cleaning.

[1]: The Swatch Group owns ETA, who make movements, but also LOTS of watch brands you know, like Omega, Breguet, Blancpain, Longines, Hamilton, Tissot, and others. My "Bond" Seamaster has an ETA movement in it, for example.

The tl;dr is that for most watches, you don't really need "factory" parts for repair.

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I love that Nomos was featured heavily. I don't own one yet, but they are for sure my favorite manufacturer.

You might like Habring2 as well. The founder invented a novel mechanism now used in split-second chronographs. Their watches are mechanically amazing, and (relatively) cheap, because they focus more on mechanical refinement than aesthetic perfection of the internals.

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I love watches in the same way I love classic British sports cars.

I love the designs and the decisions behind them, the stories of the designers and manufacturers, reading about how to dismantle and maintain them. If someone has an interesting one I am asking them all about it, appreciating it as a mechanical object and as an aesthetic piece. I would never ever own one - there's too many things in pieces in my house and garage already.

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