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The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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post #268

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"accidentally copied" Thank god for the honest among us.

Yeah, you have to wonder if the LiDAR employee had realized the similarities and eventually one day just decided to let it leak 'accidentally'.

Well, unless they first worked at Otto, then migrated to Waymo... ;)

Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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One of their strategies is to starve competitors of investment by hoovering up as much as they can themselves. This doesn't mean that they're in a good financial position, just that the signalling is different from other VC funded companies.

True. But I wonder if more VCs are going to put money in smaller localized ride sharing startups now that Uber is getting such a bad rap.

Maybe, maybe not. VCs can be like lemmings at times, and I fell like most have already jumped on the ride sharing hype.

Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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post #408

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I was a Windows engineer for Google's Corp Eng PaaS SRE team and have familiarity with this topic. It's not hard to get this data or set this data collection up on a Windows domain or machine. Anyone can set this up as long as you have the TBs to collect the data and the presentation/searching layer to find it. Windows has the ability to log everything , including device installs/uninstalls, file opens/closes/creatio…

I don't think GAIA has been publicly commented on by the company, in case that matters to you at all. Could be wrong, though, as it seems the term is present in the deposition and un-redacted.

I mean it's in some public docs, e.g. here: https://www.google.com/support/enterprise/static/gsa/docs/ad...

Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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It's weird being the guy who has lobbied for discretion and waiting for the other side in these cases on Hacker News before, and then being told I don't understand the words I am typing. The evidence basically indicts him, outright. Full stop. I'm sorry, and I know it offends you, but I'm acknowledging that fact. He is pretty much red-handed, and the evidence basically amounts to "we found the defendant standing over…

Your understanding of English must be very poor, because you said above that "I didn't say he was guilty." and now you're saying "The evidence basically indicts him, outright. Full stop." So yes, you are absolutely saying he's guilty after hearing one side of the story. Which only very stupid people do. So, at least acknowledge that you have no idea what you're talking about. If you think he's guilty, that's well wit…

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Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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It's weird being the guy who has lobbied for discretion and waiting for the other side in these cases on Hacker News before, and then being told I don't understand the words I am typing. The evidence basically indicts him, outright. Full stop. I'm sorry, and I know it offends you, but I'm acknowledging that fact. He is pretty much red-handed, and the evidence basically amounts to "we found the defendant standing over…

Your understanding of English must be very poor, because you said above that "I didn't say he was guilty." and now you're saying "The evidence basically indicts him, outright. Full stop." So yes, you are absolutely saying he's guilty after hearing one side of the story. Which only very stupid people do. So, at least acknowledge that you have no idea what you're talking about. If you think he's guilty, that's well wit…

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Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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It's weird being the guy who has lobbied for discretion and waiting for the other side in these cases on Hacker News before, and then being told I don't understand the words I am typing. The evidence basically indicts him, outright. Full stop. I'm sorry, and I know it offends you, but I'm acknowledging that fact. He is pretty much red-handed, and the evidence basically amounts to "we found the defendant standing over…

Your understanding of English must be very poor, because you said above that "I didn't say he was guilty." and now you're saying "The evidence basically indicts him, outright. Full stop." So yes, you are absolutely saying he's guilty after hearing one side of the story. Which only very stupid people do. So, at least acknowledge that you have no idea what you're talking about. If you think he's guilty, that's well wit…

You should really look up what an indictment is before lecturing someone on their English. Again, I haven't made a conclusion, and I'm dropping this thread.

Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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I'll be curious to see if the Uber-Otto acquisition gets strained. It's common for the acquired company to make specific "representations and warranties", particularly around IP. "We own our IP and didn't steal it" is typical, and some percentage of the deal is held back for ~1-2 years in case there is a problem. But if there's fraud, all bets are off. Does Uber throw Otto under the bus? It would be "The Uber Way", b…

Does Uber throw Otto under the bus? My prediction is that Kalanick and Levandowski will soon be attempting to throw each other under the bus to save their own job, money, and reputation. With any luck they will both wind up under a bus.

I have always wondered where such CEOs/founders end up post the fiasco.

Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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Uber, in their usual rule-breaking way, may come out OK on this. Suppose everything in the complaint against Uber is proven true. Google/Alphabet/Waymo gets an injunction against Uber using their rotating LIDAR, a clunky technology that's on the way out. (The future of high-volume 3D LIDAR is either flash with a staring sensor or MEMS with chip-sized moving mirrors.) G/A/W gets paid a few billion dollars, but far les…

> a clunky technology that's on the way out. How much do you want to bet?

"rotating" lidar. Solid state is the future.

Re: The Uber Bombshell About to Drop

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post #29

Uber passengers only pay 41% of the cost of trips, with investor capital making up the difference FWIW this assertion (which isn't really core to the central thesis of the post, but still) is wrong. That number comes from https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2016/12/01/2180647/the-taxi-unic... but the author of that story misread the data. Uber only counts their cut as revenue not the full cost of the ride. Despite this repet…

Also, that number must be Uber's total loss distributed per ride, rather than the profitability of each ride? I can't imagine that Uber loses money on each additional trip. If that was true, the boycotts are helping Uber!

That's probably not how it works. Most of the rides itself will make some profit for Uber. However, Uber has huge fixed costs via free rides, ads, salaries, etc. These will create the loss.

So if you have a coupon and use it, it's quite likely that Uber makes a loss. But for most other rides, the driver will usually get a bit less than what you pay. It's just not enough to cover the company costs.

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