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Gmail has become unusably slow

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Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#31

Post by timmaah »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18
jkincaid wrote: post #8

The Gmail team is most definitely aware of this and a fix is in the works. At SXSW this year there was a panel with four or five Gmail team members and this came up — they said it's related to the size of your inbox, and that it has a lot of Googlers complaining internally too, since many of them have the oldest/large accounts. Also see http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/gmail-slow/ , though it has basically the same i…

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

My personal account is using only 648mb and speed has been horrid lately. Most of the time the slowness is in returning back to the inbox. If I get the "Loading" text at the top, it will take ~10 seconds these days.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#32

Post by mattmcknight »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18
jkincaid wrote: post #8

The Gmail team is most definitely aware of this and a fix is in the works. At SXSW this year there was a panel with four or five Gmail team members and this came up — they said it's related to the size of your inbox, and that it has a lot of Googlers complaining internally too, since many of them have the oldest/large accounts. Also see http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/gmail-slow/ , though it has basically the same i…

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

I have 7.1GB, it's still beyond fast. Size isn't a sufficient condition for whatever problem it is you are seeing. The only time I had a problem was before I abandoned greasemonkey.

Which operations are slow for you?

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#33

Post by Terretta »

icey wrote: post #23
charlesju wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no way Google can scale customer service to be profitable for free services. Gmail at the end of the day is a free service, and you should either (a) pick a different email provider or (b) setup shop yourself if you need that kind of service.

Is there any software out there that handles spam as well as Gmail's spam filter? The rest of the features that Gmail offers seem like they'd be hard to replicate as well - I'm talking about the cool stuff like being able to put arbitrary periods in your email address, or adding +whatever to the end of it. I really like Gmail today, but if there were a way to replicate all the nice things it does on a server I contro…

Out of curiosity, why?

Does your cost calculation include opportunity cost of time?

If Google does it well, why would you want to spend your time on duplicating that instead of spending your time on your own original skill?

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#34

Post by godDLL »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18
jkincaid wrote: post #8

The Gmail team is most definitely aware of this and a fix is in the works. At SXSW this year there was a panel with four or five Gmail team members and this came up — they said it's related to the size of your inbox, and that it has a lot of Googlers complaining internally too, since many of them have the oldest/large accounts. Also see http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/gmail-slow/ , though it has basically the same i…

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

Fast and slow is subjective. You might be talking about responsiveness of the UI, or a specific feature like search, and someone else might be used to a faster UI, or a faster search.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#35

Post by nethergoat »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18
jkincaid wrote: post #8

The Gmail team is most definitely aware of this and a fix is in the works. At SXSW this year there was a panel with four or five Gmail team members and this came up — they said it's related to the size of your inbox, and that it has a lot of Googlers complaining internally too, since many of them have the oldest/large accounts. Also see http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/gmail-slow/ , though it has basically the same i…

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

Are all 50k messages still in your inbox, or have you archived most of them?

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#36

Post by mattmcknight »

icey wrote: post #23
charlesju wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no way Google can scale customer service to be profitable for free services. Gmail at the end of the day is a free service, and you should either (a) pick a different email provider or (b) setup shop yourself if you need that kind of service.

Is there any software out there that handles spam as well as Gmail's spam filter? The rest of the features that Gmail offers seem like they'd be hard to replicate as well - I'm talking about the cool stuff like being able to put arbitrary periods in your email address, or adding +whatever to the end of it. I really like Gmail today, but if there were a way to replicate all the nice things it does on a server I contro…

Too many of the nice things it does can't be done on "a server" you control.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#37

Post by [deleted] »

epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18
jkincaid wrote: post #8

The Gmail team is most definitely aware of this and a fix is in the works. At SXSW this year there was a panel with four or five Gmail team members and this came up — they said it's related to the size of your inbox, and that it has a lot of Googlers complaining internally too, since many of them have the oldest/large accounts. Also see http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/gmail-slow/ , though it has basically the same i…

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

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Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#38

Post by epi0Bauqu »

mattmcknight wrote: post #32
epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

I have 7.1GB, it's still beyond fast. Size isn't a sufficient condition for whatever problem it is you are seeing. The only time I had a problem was before I abandoned greasemonkey. Which operations are slow for you?

Everything is slow. Sending mail, switching labels, searching, even clicking settings or the home icon. I've tried across lots of browsers and computers. It's related to the account. Other, much smaller and newer accounts are fast.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#39

Post by epi0Bauqu »

nethergoat wrote: post #35
epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

Are all 50k messages still in your inbox, or have you archived most of them?

All archived. I keep my inbox clean.

Re: Gmail has become unusably slow

#40

Post by epi0Bauqu »

godDLL wrote: post #34
epi0Bauqu wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That reference says "slowness is really only an issue for power users of the service — those with hundreds of thousands or even millions of messages." I only have 50K messages at a little over 4GB. People are saying they have inboxes as full as mine and are still fast. Something doesn't add up. Is my account on an old infrastructure?

Fast and slow is subjective. You might be talking about responsiveness of the UI, or a specific feature like search, and someone else might be used to a faster UI, or a faster search.

Click send and stare at a modal still working... for 30sec. This is not subjective.
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