With all the ad blocking technologies that are coming up, I wonder if Google is devising something to counteract these efforts. For instance, since browser-based ad blockers work from what I know by blocking known domain names, couldn't Google create random subdomains and serve the code from a different subdomain every day or even every few hours, as well as change the way their JavaScript and HTML looks? Even someth…
Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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#162Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
#163This could be in response to any number of comments on this page: I use uBO and a few other blockers. I almost never see an ad. A few days ago I saw an ad, and I was surprised. It was for Cadillac cars. I hovered over the ad, and it seemed to go directly to cadillac.com. And I was sort of OK with that. The page, and the ad, seemed to be designed like any other legitimate link to another page or site. I don't know how…
If all ads were a picture with a link served as part of the page, I wouldn't use an adblocker. I read newspapers full of ads and don't really mind -- the ads make the local weekly free! But it wasn't me who started an arms race decades ago with pop-over/under chains and escalated with tracking scripts, auto-playing videos, and bidding platforms serving malware. Are advertisers really surprised people opt out of such…
I think some are surprised. I think others take a more adversarial view of it.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's another one I spotted recently: - Android apps like YouTube and Google News use a built-in browser frame to show navigated-to web pages, rather than opening them in an external browser. The built-in frame uses Chrome tech, without add-ons. They used to allow you to open links by default in an external browser, but not any more.
That's for faster loading, and can be disabled.
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Does it matter if they stop visiting the site? Considering that they are using resources without giving something back in return? I guess it could be argued that they might be promoting the site to other users. Other than that, they are essentially freeloaders and if a website has too many freeloaders it has to either get rid of them or convert them to something else. Or, I guess, the website could shut down complete…
If you're going to pirate a movie, you're probably not buying that movie. This is why on the whole piracy doesn't actually affect bottom line that much. Sure some folks would have rented it from their cable provider for $6 or whatever, but on the whole if you're going through the trouble of finding a good torrent and downloading it, you're not in the market to spend money on it. Just the same, if you have an adblocke…
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Ad-Away (installable via F-Droid if you are rooted) allows you to block ads at the hosts-file level, which will work in Chrome and in other apps that display ads. Before anyone chews me out, as this effectively renders many free apps equivalent to their premium (ad-free) counterparts, I usually pay for said premium versions to compensate their developers.
The catch here is that it isn't as good - using uBlock in FF for Android for example will properly block all ad frames. Using adaway or a pi-hole for that matter will not - they will only cause ad loading to fail (in some cases) - which sometimes results in frames showing errors on the page instead of a clean rendering of nothing with ad divs removed. Personally I wind up using several methods - AdAway to kill most a…
That's weird, I didn't get any Youtube ads in quite a long time, and only use AdAway.
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#167Regardless, this is a step in the right direction. DNS is highly effective for this filtering out advertising.
Personally I just run my own authoritative nameserver(s) with all the IP addresses I need. No recursive cache.
When I browse to websites where I have never been and may not return, I am never using graphical browser that loads "resources" automatically from any random domain.
I am using a browser I compiled myself. I am only reading text.
Binary resources, e.g., video, can be downloaded non-interactively with an ftp/http client.
If it is an important website that I use repeatedly, then I have all the IP addresses for the resources the website's pages will need stored in a zone files. Then it is "safe" to use a browser written by an organization company that makes money from ads. All DNS requests are answered by my server(s).
I can retrieve (refresh) the IP addresses for my zone files very quickly with custom software I wrote to do this. My lookups are faster than a cold recursive cache and send out fewer requests.
IMO, the way to think about "ad-blocking" is not to try to imagine how to block every possible ad server. Instead, just focus on what web content you want and figure out what addresses you need to get it.
At one point a certain browser written by an advertising company had its own DNS resolver. Imagine your /etc/resolv.conf being completely ignored. Food for thought.
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#168When I tried pi-hole I often noted some urls were added 'automagically' to the whitelist, they will show up a few days after I removed them. All of them were weird domains.
> All of them were weird domains. such as?
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#169Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
#170For those of us - myself included - who run a hosts file list (either using dnsmasq like Pi-hole or directly), here are the sources that Pi-hole use so you can add to your own solution: https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/blob/master/adlists.defau... There's a few on there I don't use and will look to implement. There's also a few they seem to have missed (perhaps intentionally?) so below I have included the lists I u…