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It all smacks of opportunism and reminds me of all the other EU-related votes that keep happening until voters pick the right answer.
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London independence would surely only come with the complete collapse of the UK. Or it becoming an EU-like organisation. And that's not entirely impossible - there are enough regional independence movements that it's possible to imagine it. Much more likely, though, is that everyone argues about it for decades and nothing happens.
Total collapse of the UK is looking quite possible. - Scotland is likely to go (despite what the polls say right now) - Northern Ireland is quite likely to join Ireland - God knows what Wales is going to do
I sort of wish that were the case. The reality is likely to be a lot more problematic than "quite likely", and has every danger of becoming quite violent, to boot.
I see this as a lose-lose scenario. If Scotland votes to split - it is effectively the end of UK as we've come to know it for a very long time. Fracturing is almost always a bad idea and bigger countries almost always do better than the smaller ones. If they vote to remain that will be bad as well, because it will embolden the politicians (tories in this specific case) that they can get away with anything (breaking u…
> Fracturing is almost always a bad idea and bigger countries almost always do better than the smaller ones. This is demonstrably false: roughly half of the top ten countries ranked by standard of living and quality of life are small European nations about the same size as Scotland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Dev...
Examples would include Pakistan-Bangladesh; Czech Republic-Slovakia; and Sudan-South Sudan.
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Can you elaborate on why England is a sinking ship? I ask because you're not the first person I've heard say that, but apart from a referendum 6 months ago, what has changed?
Because "sinking ship" is a line often repeated by the West's globalist media monopolies and, unfortunately, most consumers of opinion are in a rush to agree with their televisions.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the parent comment about sinking ships. I'm simply pointing out how easy it is to form this type of meaningless rhetoric
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Hello, please remain respectful. It's fine to disagree with the the SNP's policies, but calling them 'racist' is clearly outside the bounds of reason. To answer your specific point, my understanding is that general noise from Spain is that a Scottish application for EU membership would not be vetoed.
It isn't 'racism' technically, you're right. Perhaps more like a mild form of bigotry. You might strongly disagree, but the SNP routinely phrases independence like this: Scotland will be "fairer" if it is independent i.e. the English who keep outvoting us are nasty and "unfair" by nature. There are lots of quotes from people like Salmond and Sturgeon along those lines. What they mean is "we disagree with the dominant…
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It's incredible when you consider Queen Elizabeth's reign. From visiting India as a British realm to overseeing the dissolution of the Union itself.
Unless she's been very active behind the scenes, and we find out later, I think she'll go down in history as one of the worst British monarchs ever. Even as a constitutional monarch, she has influence and she has some reserve powers, but from what I've seen she hasn't used any of it to prevent the disasters of the past half-century of British history. Yes, if she exercised some of her power it'd probably spark a cons…
(I'm also reminded of the line from the Australian constitutional crisis, "God save the Queen, for nothing shall save the Govenor-General!")
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Because "sinking ship" is a line often repeated by the West's globalist media monopolies and, unfortunately, most consumers of opinion are in a rush to agree with their televisions.
"Globalist media monopoly" is a line often repeated by nationalist propaganda chanels and, unfortunately, most consumers of opinion are in a rush to disagree with anything that challenges their world view. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the parent comment about sinking ships. I'm simply pointing out how easy it is to form this type of meaningless rhetoric
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_cross-ownership_in_the_U...
Challenge your worldview. The status quo is not a conspiracy.
My understanding, based on a whole minute or two of Googling, is that the relationship between the parts of the UK, such as Scotland, England, Wales, and Northern Ireland is similar to the relationship between the states in the United States: if you are a citizen of the union, you are automatically a citizen of whichever part you live in.
I wonder, then, if between the time of the vote and the time that independence actually happens if Scottish independence would trigger a lot of movement (1) to England of Scots who do not want independence from the UK or who do not want to try to join the EU, and (2) to Scotland of English who want a shot at staying in the EU?
However, I think it's now almost certain that if Scotland does vote to become independent they will be forced to take the Euro as currency. Is Spain now willing to allow them into the EU or will they veto their membership application because of their issues with Catalonia? Still seems like racist SNP are still in denial
Hello, please remain respectful. It's fine to disagree with the the SNP's policies, but calling them 'racist' is clearly outside the bounds of reason. To answer your specific point, my understanding is that general noise from Spain is that a Scottish application for EU membership would not be vetoed.
Scotland's economy will be wrecked by leaving the UK as there will no longer be the massive transfers of tax revenue from England to Scotland as at present under the Barnett formula. It seems like plenty of Scots hate everything about from the UK apart from our English pounds, which they are quite happy to keep sticking their hands out for. Good luck without them!