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> but I wish people wouldn't actively encourage this pattern Why do you care so much about what people do or don't do? Edit: We're talking about blocking ads, right? If people encouraged everyone to block ads what would happen to the economy?
The discussion is about the installation method. Piping to bash can be dangerous.
Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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How about if they load them through *.google.com? Sure, you could whitelist www.google.com, mail.google.com, etc, but couldn't they keep ahead of you if they were ok with using their main domain? They could even start using www.google.com/ad-id
Yes, domain fronting through Google App Engine is already helping Signal bypass censorship: https://whispersystems.org/blog/doodles-stickers-censorship/ Currently domain-based filtering is probably too small a proportion of traffic to even care about, but as ease-of-use comes to the masses there may come a point where the pro-ad side will implement this.
This would require cooperation from the sending http stack, in this case the browser. I doubt that this is a viable option in this case.
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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That's another good point. The people who are actively blocking ads are probably not the ones going to click them, even if they are not blocked. So not worth the money to invest in unblocking the ads going to people who aren't going to click them.
People greatly overestimate their ability to completely ignore ads, and to make purchasing decisions free from influence. Sure, I believe that I am pretty much completely unaffected ads, but then so does almost everybody else .
This is in the same vein of inductive reasoning as "just snap out of your [insert mental illness/addiction/etc.]."
"People," in this context, isn't defined either. If however we were to say that by "people" you mean millennials, then you would be wrong.
But if you meant "the population at large" you would be correct.
Although, the second statement is tangential to the article at hand.
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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True. I am not meaning to say I am perfect (or that anyone can be), the hunch is just the expected click through rate of someone such as myself is likely much lower than someone who doesn't even know what an ad blocker is.
You're more likely to look at an ad if you have an ad blocker. That makes you a prime target.
Is it because you believe people use ad-blockers because they're impulsive and can't hold their gaze?
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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Not really the same. One of the main issues with curl pipes is that the server (or MITM) can detect that the request goes into a pipe. This allows an attacker to display one (safe) source when you view it in your browser on your workstation, or wget it, and serve a different (nefarious) source when you curl/pipe it. So, a more complete analogy would be: a bottle that gives you a safe chemical compound when you extrac…
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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Google makes efforts to prevent ad-blocking: - Google Chrome for mobile doesn't allow add-ons so you can't install ad-blockers. (You can install browser extensions with Firefox for Android.) - Google Chrome uses a dark pattern where the address bar tends to send users to the Google search results page instead of to their final destination (compare the behavior with Firefox's). That means that even if you have an ad-b…
Here's another one I spotted recently: - Android apps like YouTube and Google News use a built-in browser frame to show navigated-to web pages, rather than opening them in an external browser. The built-in frame uses Chrome tech, without add-ons. They used to allow you to open links by default in an external browser, but not any more.
To block ads in Chrome Custom Tabs [1][2] you can either use Chromer [3] to change the custom tab provider to Brave [4] or use the article mode in Chromer.
[1] https://developer.chrome.com/multidevice/android/customtabs
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/5ahlfq/dev_psa_chr...
[3] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arun.com.chrom...
[4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brave.brow...
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
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I think pi-hole will at least partially block such things -- it intercepts at the network level. I guess you could have the app break itself if the ads won't load, but you can (mostly) do that in a browser. I guess, for network level ad blockers, I'm not seeing obvious advantages to a program written as an app vs a program written to run in a browser.
As others have mentioned, you could just serve ads and content from domains which you wouldn't want to block, like www.google.com. And if an app receives its content encrypted (eg. SSL) you can't do a lot of filtering at the network level apart from domain names.
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
#108With all the ad blocking technologies that are coming up, I wonder if Google is devising something to counteract these efforts. For instance, since browser-based ad blockers work from what I know by blocking known domain names, couldn't Google create random subdomains and serve the code from a different subdomain every day or even every few hours, as well as change the way their JavaScript and HTML looks? Even someth…
Google makes efforts to prevent ad-blocking: - Google Chrome for mobile doesn't allow add-ons so you can't install ad-blockers. (You can install browser extensions with Firefox for Android.) - Google Chrome uses a dark pattern where the address bar tends to send users to the Google search results page instead of to their final destination (compare the behavior with Firefox's). That means that even if you have an ad-b…
It's called HDCP, and I believe it's a combination of your GPU, monitor and cable between it supporting it. Netflix and most other online streaming services do this too. It has nothing to do with root access.
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
#109With all the ad blocking technologies that are coming up, I wonder if Google is devising something to counteract these efforts. For instance, since browser-based ad blockers work from what I know by blocking known domain names, couldn't Google create random subdomains and serve the code from a different subdomain every day or even every few hours, as well as change the way their JavaScript and HTML looks? Even someth…
Google makes efforts to prevent ad-blocking: - Google Chrome for mobile doesn't allow add-ons so you can't install ad-blockers. (You can install browser extensions with Firefox for Android.) - Google Chrome uses a dark pattern where the address bar tends to send users to the Google search results page instead of to their final destination (compare the behavior with Firefox's). That means that even if you have an ad-b…
Before anyone chews me out, as this effectively renders many free apps equivalent to their premium (ad-free) counterparts, I usually pay for said premium versions to compensate their developers.
Re: Pi-hole – A black hole for Internet advertisements
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google makes efforts to prevent ad-blocking: - Google Chrome for mobile doesn't allow add-ons so you can't install ad-blockers. (You can install browser extensions with Firefox for Android.) - Google Chrome uses a dark pattern where the address bar tends to send users to the Google search results page instead of to their final destination (compare the behavior with Firefox's). That means that even if you have an ad-b…
Here's another one I spotted recently: - Android apps like YouTube and Google News use a built-in browser frame to show navigated-to web pages, rather than opening them in an external browser. The built-in frame uses Chrome tech, without add-ons. They used to allow you to open links by default in an external browser, but not any more.