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Study: Immigrants Founded 51% of U.S. Billion-Dollar Startups

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Re: Study: Immigrants Founded 51% of U.S. Billion-Dollar Startups

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Post by ericjang »

Cuuugi wrote: post #10

Whenever I see "Immigration" in the title, i think anti-Trump and get sad. No one is trying to stop legal immigration. Tech companies are mad because they are cracking down on H1-B Visa abuse. This is not a bad thing.

Issues of H1-B Visa abuse aside, I think this guy was trying to stop legal immigration: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/kent-shooting...

I don't think articles like "Study: Immigrants Founded 51% of U.S. Billion-Dollar Startups" are all about anti-Trump, it's more like pointing out to the American public that immigrants are not a tax on the rest of society.

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Post by ruddct »

Cuuugi wrote: post #10

Whenever I see "Immigration" in the title, i think anti-Trump and get sad. No one is trying to stop legal immigration. Tech companies are mad because they are cracking down on H1-B Visa abuse. This is not a bad thing.

Refugees come here legally. The travel ban explicitly tries to stop them from doing so.

Re: Study: Immigrants Founded 51% of U.S. Billion-Dollar Startups

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Post by cromwellian »

nerdponx wrote: post #7

What percentage of all startups are founded by immigrants? If it's on the order of 51%, you can't rule out the possibility that this number just reflects the base occurrence rate of immigrants in the "population" of all startup founders.

Could be true but looks just as bad. If 51% of all startups are founded by a tiny minority of immigrants relative to the general population, then why the hell do we want to keep these people out?

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Post by nilkn »

xapata wrote: post #19
Cuuugi wrote: post #10

Whenever I see "Immigration" in the title, i think anti-Trump and get sad. No one is trying to stop legal immigration. Tech companies are mad because they are cracking down on H1-B Visa abuse. This is not a bad thing.

No, Bannon has explicitly said he wants to reduce the number of ethnic minorities running tech companies. This is independent of their legal status.

I think that needs a citation with a clear quote.

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Post by differentView »

Cuuugi wrote: post #10

Whenever I see "Immigration" in the title, i think anti-Trump and get sad. No one is trying to stop legal immigration. Tech companies are mad because they are cracking down on H1-B Visa abuse. This is not a bad thing.

>No one is trying to stop legal immigration.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt and believe that YOU are not trying to stop legal immigration. However, many are trying to stop immigration, some are against all immigration, some are against only those of a certain religion.

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Post by pm90 »

cromwellian wrote: post #18
Cuuugi wrote: post #10

Whenever I see "Immigration" in the title, i think anti-Trump and get sad. No one is trying to stop legal immigration. Tech companies are mad because they are cracking down on H1-B Visa abuse. This is not a bad thing.

Really? Than why so many leaked memos show that Bannon and Miller want to reduce family Visas for those already legally here? Why is Bannon and Miller's favorite novel a racist French book about Europe becoming less white? Why when Bannon was interviewed on radio he said he wanted to bring the numbers on legal immigration way down? You're fooling yourself if you think this is just about undocumented Mexicans, Muslims…

First they came for the "Illegals"...

Rhetoric aside, as you pointed out, this is only the beginning. Authoritarians always need a scrapegoat to blame for "failed policies". Once one group is eliminated, on to another.

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Post by MrInvisible »

rs1234 wrote: post #12

Immigrants founded 99.99% of all US startups (except for a few casinos)

Fun Fact: If you were born and raised in a country your ancestors founded, you're not an immigrant.

Also A Fun Fact: Natives never created a complex enough society to call anything a 'country'. The United States was founded by Whites on landed they had won from the Natives by right of conquest.

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Post by op00to »

Cuuugi wrote: post #10

Whenever I see "Immigration" in the title, i think anti-Trump and get sad. No one is trying to stop legal immigration. Tech companies are mad because they are cracking down on H1-B Visa abuse. This is not a bad thing.

The Trump administration is trying to stop legal immigration. One way they are doing this is by reducing the number of refugees America accepts. This is a form of legal immigration that is being stopped, mainly by reducing it bit by bit.

Re: Study: Immigrants Founded 51% of U.S. Billion-Dollar Startups

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Post by TuringNYC »

Cuuugi wrote: post #10

Whenever I see "Immigration" in the title, i think anti-Trump and get sad. No one is trying to stop legal immigration. Tech companies are mad because they are cracking down on H1-B Visa abuse. This is not a bad thing.

The first ban was most certainly not only illegal immigrants, it was legal immigrants such as green card holders and even on dual-citizens from a number of countries. Specifically, the first ban also banned permanent residents from a number of countries (i.e. greencard holders.) Note that permanent residents have to pay US taxes even on income back home, even if living overseas. They are very much legal residents that have committed quite a bit of effort (and usually also funds) into becoming legal residents.

Reference: "It will bar green card holders," Gillian Christensen, acting Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman, said in an email.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-gree...

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