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Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by j_s »

tptacek wrote: post #77
DanBC wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> whenever a mod removed something forcibly from front Mods (as far as I know, I'm not one) never forcibly remove things from the front page. These are almost always the result of user flagging.

The moderators bury things on the front page pretty routinely.

tptacek 1 hour ago

The moderators bury things on the front page pretty routinely.

That's a pretty big (and vague!) accusation to just throw out there, especially in light of this comment elsewhere: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13858327

dang 6 minutes ago

As others have pointed out, the [flagged] annotation means heavily flagged. A story can be downweighted off the front page by user flags long before [flagged] shows up. Indeed that's what happened to the submission the OP is complaining about. Moderators never saw it.

Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by onewaystreet »

falcolas wrote: post #99

Obligatory pimping of a tool I use (not mine, though): http://hckrnews.com/ Shows stories which have hit the front page ever, in the order of their posting. If it's currently on the front page, the link is orange. If it's not, it's black. It's very interesting to watch how frequently highly upvoted and commented posts turn black, while their temporal peers remain. Anecdotally, there appears to be trend of positive/ne…

> For example, as of this instant in time, there is an article about Angular2 which remains on the front page while more highly upvoted and commented articles about laptop security

For front page rankings time matters more than total votes. A submission with 10 votes can be ranked higher than one with 50 if those 10 votes came in minutes rather than over the course of a day. It's not surprising that controversial submissions that get less up-votes (and more flags) don't get ranked as high.

Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by ethbro »

dang wrote: post #149

The story the OP is complaining about was flagged by users. Moderators never saw it (edit: wrong, we put 2010 on the title by mistake, see downthread [1]). Had we seen it, we would have turned off the flags. There's a long tradition of people looking at HN data and posting about it. Edit #2: since the 2010 thing was our mistake (an accident of sleep deprivation by the looks of it!) I've invited foob to repost the ori…

If you don't mind answering, is there a reason [flagged] doesn't show as soon as it starts to downweight?

Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by minimaxir »

dang wrote: post #149

The story the OP is complaining about was flagged by users. Moderators never saw it (edit: wrong, we put 2010 on the title by mistake, see downthread [1]). Had we seen it, we would have turned off the flags. There's a long tradition of people looking at HN data and posting about it. Edit #2: since the 2010 thing was our mistake (an accident of sleep deprivation by the looks of it!) I've invited foob to repost the ori…

...so what's happening to this submission now, since it dropped from #1? :P

Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by dang »

minimaxir wrote: post #154
dang wrote: post #149

The story the OP is complaining about was flagged by users. Moderators never saw it (edit: wrong, we put 2010 on the title by mistake, see downthread [1]). Had we seen it, we would have turned off the flags. There's a long tradition of people looking at HN data and posting about it. Edit #2: since the 2010 thing was our mistake (an accident of sleep deprivation by the looks of it!) I've invited foob to repost the ori…

...so what's happening to this submission now, since it dropped from #1? :P

You're so quick! I'm busy adding to my comment to explain.

Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by [deleted] »

azrazalea wrote: post #83
ploggingdev wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP uses this story as an example of having "moderator fingerprints on them" i.e moderators censoring posts, which is not true. What happened was the opposite : the moderator uncensored a post flagged by the community.

Well, the author tried to account for that by saying that normal flagged posts don't go down near as fast. If what is being said in other threads is true, high karma accounts clicking flag could push a post off the front page without showing the "flagged" tag, then that could be an explanation instead. Which would then mean that maybe these high karma users have too much power.

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Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by onewaystreet »

minimaxir wrote: post #154
dang wrote: post #149

The story the OP is complaining about was flagged by users. Moderators never saw it (edit: wrong, we put 2010 on the title by mistake, see downthread [1]). Had we seen it, we would have turned off the flags. There's a long tradition of people looking at HN data and posting about it. Edit #2: since the 2010 thing was our mistake (an accident of sleep deprivation by the looks of it!) I've invited foob to repost the ori…

...so what's happening to this submission now, since it dropped from #1? :P

It's getting flagged.

Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by antocv »

yAnonymous wrote: post #125

The main problem I have with this is that similar to Reddit, HN is advertised as open-minded, free-talking place by the team themselves. When you then secretly censor stuff, because it doesn't fit your agenda, be it politically or financially, it makes you look even more like a hypocrite. Branding yourself liberal while employing fascist methods (censoring and banning) seems to be a trend, not only on the internet.

Ive noticed a lack of Assange, Wikileaks and Snowden discussions up in here.

CIA Vault 7, like 1 thread or something, yeah right.

Re: Stories that Hacker News removes from the front page

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #149

The story the OP is complaining about was flagged by users. Moderators never saw it (edit: wrong, we put 2010 on the title by mistake, see downthread [1]). Had we seen it, we would have turned off the flags. There's a long tradition of people looking at HN data and posting about it. Edit #2: since the 2010 thing was our mistake (an accident of sleep deprivation by the looks of it!) I've invited foob to repost the ori…

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