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Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by vocatus_gate »

okket wrote: post #15
fiatjaf wrote: post #10

Since no one is complaining: I find Syncthing too complicated to set up. You must create a folder, then get a number for a computer (which you end up writing in a pastepad or something like that because the two computers don't communicate), then go to the other computer and place the number in, then do the same for the second computer to the first. Repeat it for 5 or 6 machines. If any machine is switched what do you…

This is the price you have to pay for a (secure) decentralised system, but syncthing tries to help where it can. E.g. you can set a syncthing instance as an 'introducer', so you only have to establish a connection to this device to get offered connections to all others devices. You still need to authorise these introductions on the devices, but you do not need to type in the crypto verification strings.

That's how I do it. My use case is a large number of nodes (>200) need read-only access to data I provide from my node. So my node is set as "introducer" and gives the host list to everyone joining the swarm.

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by odabaxok »

mouldysammich wrote: post #16
odabaxok wrote: post #12

Can anyone share their experiences with Syncthing compared to Resilio Sync (aka Bit Torrent Sync)? I am using Resilio Sync since its beta version, but they have added a lot of restrictions since then and made some functions only available for paying users. I am concerned about ease of use (setup and everyday usage) on Windows and Android.

I used syncthing when it first came out on windows and it was very easy to set up so i can only assume its improved since then, and the android app is quite good. it has a large number of settings and you can make it only run when you're charging so you dong use all your batter.

Thanks for the reply.

In the meantime, I have checked Syncthing forums and I have found this topic: https://forum.syncthing.net/t/why-im-moving-back-to-btsync-r... It is exactly complaining about the ease of use on Windows and Android, saying there is no native GUI, etc. From this description it seems, that Syncthing is not there, yet.

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by vocatus_gate »

odabaxok wrote: post #12

Can anyone share their experiences with Syncthing compared to Resilio Sync (aka Bit Torrent Sync)? I am using Resilio Sync since its beta version, but they have added a lot of restrictions since then and made some functions only available for paying users. I am concerned about ease of use (setup and everyday usage) on Windows and Android.

Oh boy can I ever.

We used Resilio Sync (aka Bittorrent Sync aka BT Sync) for a while for the Tron project ( https://reddit.com/r/TronScript ). It worked great for our use-case: distributing a large number of files to a large number of nodes who required read-only access. Anytime I changed a file on the master node it would blast out to everyone else while simultaneously preventing any other node in the swarm from propagating changes.

Unfortunately with all the restrictions they introduced, it stopped working reliably. Internally they introduced a hard-coded peer cap of something like 32, while our swarm was already over 500.

We switched to Syncthing and it's been working well. There is still one major issue and that's that anyone can mark their copy of the folder as "read-only" (formerly called "Master"), and then they will attempt to propagate changes out to the rest of the swarm. So, there's that. But strictly on a distributed file syncing level, it works great.

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by XorNot »

dragly wrote: post #2

It amazes me that Syncthing handles rapidly-changing files better for me than Dropbox. Where Dropbox has left different versions of files on different computers even after they have changed multiple times, Syncthing happily synchronizes them without issues. And the fact that Syncthing is open source and allows me to keep files on my own machines is a big plus. However, I would love to see a paid option for easy backu…

Does syncthing have a backup option?

Last I recall it didn't, which kind of soured me on it - in an ideal world every sync operation would be prefaced with "send a backup to one of my backup endpoints first".

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by mouldysammich »

odabaxok wrote: post #22
mouldysammich wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used syncthing when it first came out on windows and it was very easy to set up so i can only assume its improved since then, and the android app is quite good. it has a large number of settings and you can make it only run when you're charging so you dong use all your batter.

Thanks for the reply. In the meantime, I have checked Syncthing forums and I have found this topic: https://forum.syncthing.net/t/why-im-moving-back-to-btsync-r... It is exactly complaining about the ease of use on Windows and Android, saying there is no native GUI, etc. From this description it seems, that Syncthing is not there, yet.

There isnt a native gui, in that its in the browser but that isnt really a problem i would have said. it allows the developers to focus on a cross-platform good backend and have a crossplatform frontend without the issues that come with having that.

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by josephb »

vocatus_gate wrote: post #19

As a heavy user of Syncthing for the Tron project ( https://reddit.com/r/TronScript ) I'm excited to see how well Syncthing is doing, and really appreciate the hard work from the devs. We spun up a Syncthing node to distribute the project after Resilio Sync (formerly "BT Sync") put a hard cap on the number of nodes that were allowed to connect. Keep up the great work, team!

For those with some spare CPU cycles and bandwidth you can give back to the project by running a relay server.

https://docs.syncthing.net/users/strelaysrv.html

Eg that VM running a DNS adblocker, from another front page article :)

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by unhammer »

fiatjaf wrote: post #10

Since no one is complaining: I find Syncthing too complicated to set up. You must create a folder, then get a number for a computer (which you end up writing in a pastepad or something like that because the two computers don't communicate), then go to the other computer and place the number in, then do the same for the second computer to the first. Repeat it for 5 or 6 machines. If any machine is switched what do you…

Just set one up as the introducer, makes it much easier.

Also, you get auto-complete in the field where you select the id, so you don't actually have to type it in …

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by [deleted] »

XorNot wrote: post #24
dragly wrote: post #2

It amazes me that Syncthing handles rapidly-changing files better for me than Dropbox. Where Dropbox has left different versions of files on different computers even after they have changed multiple times, Syncthing happily synchronizes them without issues. And the fact that Syncthing is open source and allows me to keep files on my own machines is a big plus. However, I would love to see a paid option for easy backu…

Does syncthing have a backup option? Last I recall it didn't, which kind of soured me on it - in an ideal world every sync operation would be prefaced with "send a backup to one of my backup endpoints first".

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Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by noja »

XorNot wrote: post #24
dragly wrote: post #2

It amazes me that Syncthing handles rapidly-changing files better for me than Dropbox. Where Dropbox has left different versions of files on different computers even after they have changed multiple times, Syncthing happily synchronizes them without issues. And the fact that Syncthing is open source and allows me to keep files on my own machines is a big plus. However, I would love to see a paid option for easy backu…

Does syncthing have a backup option? Last I recall it didn't, which kind of soured me on it - in an ideal world every sync operation would be prefaced with "send a backup to one of my backup endpoints first".

Depends on your use case. You can configure it to keep versions of files: https://docs.syncthing.net/users/versioning.html

(But Syncthing is intended for file syncing, not backup.)

Re: Syncthing Usage Data

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Post by baldfat »

odabaxok wrote: post #12

Can anyone share their experiences with Syncthing compared to Resilio Sync (aka Bit Torrent Sync)? I am using Resilio Sync since its beta version, but they have added a lot of restrictions since then and made some functions only available for paying users. I am concerned about ease of use (setup and everyday usage) on Windows and Android.

I tried to switch to SyncThing BUT firewalls at various locations just tripped me up. Resilio Sync breaks through the firewalls with no problem. That's my only issue.
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