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Re: Scotland to seek second independence referendum

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Based on current polling, it seems the SNP would likely lose this one too. Which makes me suspect they're bluffing.

Ah yes, like the 'current polling' at the time suggested the UK would definitely remain in the EU, or that President Clinton was a surefire thing.

Re: Scotland to seek second independence referendum

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https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/why-have-polls-not-show... "Why have the polls not shown a shift towards Scottish independence?"

Latest polls have Yes on 49%.

The First Minister needs a big swing in the polls to Yes somewhere in the 6X% to get this to pass.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/13/scottish-in...

Re: Scotland to seek second independence referendum

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post #3

Based on current polling, it seems the SNP would likely lose this one too. Which makes me suspect they're bluffing.

Ah yes, like the 'current polling' at the time suggested the UK would definitely remain in the EU, or that President Clinton was a surefire thing.

They underestimated the No vote last time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Scotti...

Re: Scotland to seek second independence referendum

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Based on current polling, it seems the SNP would likely lose this one too. Which makes me suspect they're bluffing.

I had expected them to wait until 2019 given that's the probable date for the next general election. I think they might be timing this to coincide with Article 70 notification this week. Apart from people's fears about what that will mean, there's a chance of adverse reactions from the markets and business which might focus Scots' minds on what could happen.

They're definitely not bluffing. Clue's in the name.

Re: Scotland to seek second independence referendum

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post #3

Based on current polling, it seems the SNP would likely lose this one too. Which makes me suspect they're bluffing.

Ah yes, like the 'current polling' at the time suggested the UK would definitely remain in the EU, or that President Clinton was a surefire thing.

The "Project Fear" approach was used successfully in the 2014 referendum and then failed in 2016 because very smart political strategists such as Dominic Cummings worked out how to counter it.

Given that the approach used to achieve the Brexit vote has been documented in great detail I wonder how we'll see them applied in this new referendum?

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