My wife is going through a version of this right now. We are scheduled to see a specialist at Stanford in a few weeks. Just last March we hiked to Patagonia and camped there. We hiked for about 8km to the camp place. She even carried more weight on her back than I did. But this last December when we went snowshoeing in the Canadian Rockies, she had to stop every few minutes from fatigue. I helped carried half of her…
I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
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Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#22My wife is going through a version of this right now. We are scheduled to see a specialist at Stanford in a few weeks. Just last March we hiked to Patagonia and camped there. We hiked for about 8km to the camp place. She even carried more weight on her back than I did. But this last December when we went snowshoeing in the Canadian Rockies, she had to stop every few minutes from fatigue. I helped carried half of her…
Before you go nuclear, have you considered a less invasive option, namely fecal transplants? There's not much research yet, but it looks promising for a lot of diseases, including chronic fatigue: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284325/
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#23My wife is going through a version of this right now. We are scheduled to see a specialist at Stanford in a few weeks. Just last March we hiked to Patagonia and camped there. We hiked for about 8km to the camp place. She even carried more weight on her back than I did. But this last December when we went snowshoeing in the Canadian Rockies, she had to stop every few minutes from fatigue. I helped carried half of her…
Before you go nuclear, have you considered a less invasive option, namely fecal transplants? There's not much research yet, but it looks promising for a lot of diseases, including chronic fatigue: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284325/
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#24My wife is going through a version of this right now. We are scheduled to see a specialist at Stanford in a few weeks. Just last March we hiked to Patagonia and camped there. We hiked for about 8km to the camp place. She even carried more weight on her back than I did. But this last December when we went snowshoeing in the Canadian Rockies, she had to stop every few minutes from fatigue. I helped carried half of her…
Valter Longo has recommended at least 4-5 days to treat auto-immune disorders [1].
I've done 5 day fasts. For something serious I would try 7.
[1] http://joshmitteldorf.scienceblog.com/2014/06/12/the-three-d... “3 days is optimal for mice. For humans 4-5 minimum, depending on what you are trying to achieve”
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#25To best honest it sounds more like CFS than autoimmunity. The article says that it turned out not to be thyroid, and the autoimmune diagnosis was just presumed. Generally when you have those symptoms it is termed CFS, but people don't like CFS because they incorrectly think it means "all in your head" or "you're not really ill". CFS tends to be triggered by stress (as it was in this case), and sufferers tend to lead…
Chronic fatigue can be caused by undiagnosed organic illnesses. Personal anecdote: I had CFS for several years, and when the diagnosis (an easily treatable genetic condition) was eventually made, and treatment taken, I was better within a few months.
It's certainly possible that CFS is caused by some as-yet-unidentified organic illness. However the science doesn't seem to point in that direction (as the stress system seems to be centrally implicated), and it also doesn't fit with the experiences of patients like myself who have fully recovered.
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#262 years later I grew giant, hard skin patches on my knees. My fingernails started detaching. I could live with it, although as a gym rat I needed to make sure my knees were wrapped since doing anything on my knees ripped the skin open.
My fingernails continued to go through phases of detachment and normalcy, and I've lived with the limited skin problems because they were limited. But just in the last year I've grown giant scaly patches up and down my back, and now there are spots growing, expanding across my forehead and nose. I can see how people look at me now, there's something clearly wrong with my face.
I'm terrified. I've always had general fatigue that seemed to match flareups in my skin. While the angriest, spreading psoriasis + fatigue comes in waves, each wave seems worse than the worst that came before. I'm scheduled to see a dermatologist in a few weeks (in Canada, I've had to wait 3 months just be able to have this appointment) but my deepest fear is that I'll be told this is my life now. Even though I know that's the answer, I know there's no cure for psoriasis.
I don't know why I'm typing this, except perhaps that I realize that both the author and I are on the same hunt, and not finding much of anything that can help us feel like we're more than 80% (or 60% or 40%) of the person we were as teenagers. But perhaps there is hope that I'm seeing more articles like this, autoimmune diseases are getting more attention.
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#27To best honest it sounds more like CFS than autoimmunity. The article says that it turned out not to be thyroid, and the autoimmune diagnosis was just presumed. Generally when you have those symptoms it is termed CFS, but people don't like CFS because they incorrectly think it means "all in your head" or "you're not really ill". CFS tends to be triggered by stress (as it was in this case), and sufferers tend to lead…
> A few days later, she called to say that I had antibodies to my thyroid, a butterfly-shaped gland in the neck that regulates metabolism and energy. My thyroid was being attacked by my immune system—a disease known as autoimmune thyroiditis
> A common symptom of autoimmune diseases is debilitating fatigue.
> I found people who had the same supposedly disconnected symptoms I’d had over the years. One woman, like me, had had hives for months before an autoimmune disease was diagnosed; some had low cortisol or Vitamin D and Vitamin B12, or were anemic. Others experienced joint pain and the same maddening itching sensation that came and went.
> My joints hurt, my neck hurt; I had nosebleeds and large bruises up and down my legs. I spent hours every day unable to work, in the grip of severe itching in my arms and legs.
> "Your labs look normal, except for the thyroid hormones"
> A rheumatologist had found an antigen in my blood that is associated with a number of autoimmune diseases.
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#28But sometimes it screws up. Maybe you encounter something that triggers expansion of lineages with autoimmune potential. Or maybe there's damage that exposes previously hidden antigens to the immune system. There's undoubtedly a genetic component too.
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#29To best honest it sounds more like CFS than autoimmunity. The article says that it turned out not to be thyroid, and the autoimmune diagnosis was just presumed. Generally when you have those symptoms it is termed CFS, but people don't like CFS because they incorrectly think it means "all in your head" or "you're not really ill". CFS tends to be triggered by stress (as it was in this case), and sufferers tend to lead…
This is actually what the article says, which may inform your diagnosis: > A few days later, she called to say that I had antibodies to my thyroid, a butterfly-shaped gland in the neck that regulates metabolism and energy. My thyroid was being attacked by my immune system—a disease known as autoimmune thyroiditis > A common symptom of autoimmune diseases is debilitating fatigue. > I found people who had the same supp…
>None of these were usual symptoms of thyroiditis.
>you could have a low antibody count and still be quite sick, or a high antibody count and feel fine.
>my TSH, a pituitary hormone that is supposed to get higher when your thyroid hormones get low, never budged
Also see:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1568997207...
Re: I had an autoimmune disease, then the disease had me (2013)
#30It started when I was 25. I found the area above my ears, just at the hairline, was always itchy and flaky. Within a few months my scrotum turned red and itchy and flaky. Since there had never been anything wrong with me other than than a flu or two, I immediately went to the doctor. The diagnosis was "probably psoriasis" and I was prescribed hydrocortisone and Dovonex. 2 years later I grew giant, hard skin patches o…
I've been to 5 different doctors, a general internist, 2 dermatologists, an ENT, a gastroenterologist, and have gotten 5 different diagnosis. It feels pretty lonely, but I'm glad to see your story here, and that this article is shining more light on these kind of ailments.