About jet lag and so forth, why not try forget about DST and time zones and use UTC?
There are already people working night shifts and feeding babies :), everywhere, so we can assume, the number on our watch doesn't correlate to a certain mood-I-must-be-in-at-this-hour.
After all, if we ever leave for another planet, having single clock for single planet sure shall make communication easier than having time zones. Somebody always has eye bags.
Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
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Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#172> Most people’s natural cycle is somewhat longer than the 24-hour solar day, which means that, left to our own devices, we would get quickly get out of sync with the external world. I've always had very bad issues sleeping and waking "on time." In school this led to me regularly missing class and eventually dropping school entirely, and with regular work schedules I hardly ever got good sleep. A little while ago, I m…
With your sleep schedule constantly shifting, how do you manage day-to-day activities? You must have a job with very flexible hours for that to work. But even things like going to the store and seeing a doctor must be slightly more difficult if you might be asleep from morning to afternoon. With 9 months of data, how consistently do you shift your schedule by 1 hour each day? I'd imagine there are fluctuations, but I…
If you can partner up and take some time, BUD/S...it will change your outlook on life. This isn't something to be done alone as most of us have trained an 8-hour sleep routine. Somewhere around 72 hours of 'non-sleep' you'll stop thinking and be grounded. However, at around 48 hours you'll likely experience a psychotic episode which could lead anywhere...hence, the buddy.
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Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#173Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#174> Most people’s natural cycle is somewhat longer than the 24-hour solar day, which means that, left to our own devices, we would get quickly get out of sync with the external world. I've always had very bad issues sleeping and waking "on time." In school this led to me regularly missing class and eventually dropping school entirely, and with regular work schedules I hardly ever got good sleep. A little while ago, I m…
I've done the same before for a few months, and I also found myself getting up an hour later every day. It was amazing.
Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#175If you suffer from depression, you should thoroughly research LSD and then make your fully informed personal decision. On the negative side, this substance may become one of the reasons the pharmaceutical industry will lose recurrent revenues from disappearing dependency on expensive anti-depressants.
Also, on the negative side, it can make you believe extraordinary claims without a corresponding amount of evidence.
You sound like someone I know who is an acid head. He also has some far out there beliefs that he has no evidence to back up with, acid is a cure all among them, although his life is very messed up.
I've never tried it , personally, but I think a lot of people that take it end up believing something or some things that do not follow.
This can end up great for a person if it involves their own success and it gives them the drive to pursue it where others would give up (this is what I believe happened to Steve Jobs). But it can also have profound negative effects. The guy I knew used to be a good friend, have a good job, and on a great track , but now he's running around trying to cajole money from people and systematically lies about his problems.
Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also did some reading about vitamins last year and ended up taking vitamin d for a while, then magnesium for a while. My method wasn't any more scientific than that, but the vitamin D had no noticeable effect, while the effect of magnesium was dramatic. I was suffering from mood swings, poor concentration and low energy serious enough that I was considering seeing a psychologist about depression. Magnesium seems to…
Sorry man but I have to butt in here. The culture of hacker news-type thinking can be very toxic and lead to such thoughts as "I just wish there was a better way to figure out your deficiency than just popping some pills and wait to see what happens. A weekly blood test for vitamin levels combined with mood and health journaling would probably give me the kind of data I'm looking for, but that only seems to be availa…
Please source or argue your claims.
> Why does the solution have to involve technology?
Because technology has the potential to be more powerful than other solutions.
Your suggestion, and the direction of your post in general, sounds like moralism. Moralistic suggestions have more to do with virtue and privilege signaling than actual results. I am generally extremely suspicious of any advice that comes from a moralistic angle because it's noisy and mostly driven by logic in the nature of "bad things don't happen to people who live correctly".
Unsurprisingly, the suggestion misses the fact that eating plants is not going to address something like a Vitamin D deficiency. Vitamin D deficiencies, as far as we currently know, are caused by lack of sunlight and the use of sunscreen.
Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spain has this issue. It is in the wrong timezone, which the government changed in the 1940s. Consequently it stays light until 6:30pm in winter. In mountainous regions such as Picos de Europa, towns in the valleys do have kids catching schoolbuses in near darkness at 8:30am. As a traveller I found the experience surreal. Although, we put the clocks forward an hour leading up to the 2000 Olympics so construction work…
The 2000 Olympics where held in Sydney :)
Yes and I live in Melbourne, where daylight saving was adopted in August, despite the event being held hundreds of kms away.
Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also did some reading about vitamins last year and ended up taking vitamin d for a while, then magnesium for a while. My method wasn't any more scientific than that, but the vitamin D had no noticeable effect, while the effect of magnesium was dramatic. I was suffering from mood swings, poor concentration and low energy serious enough that I was considering seeing a psychologist about depression. Magnesium seems to…
Sorry man but I have to butt in here. The culture of hacker news-type thinking can be very toxic and lead to such thoughts as "I just wish there was a better way to figure out your deficiency than just popping some pills and wait to see what happens. A weekly blood test for vitamin levels combined with mood and health journaling would probably give me the kind of data I'm looking for, but that only seems to be availa…
The reason people are looking to science for this problem is because science has historically been at the forefront of every medical breakthrough. You're suggesting to give it up in favor of what? Some 'radically change your diet' bullshit that you haven't backed up with a single piece of objective evidence? You're really advocating snake oil over engineering? That's not to say that radical diet changes don't work, but your approach to this is completely backwards.
I'd like to think that society as a whole has moved on from your mindset about a century ago. We're past meaningless non-statements like 'this isn't guaranteed to solve the issue but I bet it will help a lot'.
Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#179> Most people’s natural cycle is somewhat longer than the 24-hour solar day, which means that, left to our own devices, we would get quickly get out of sync with the external world. I've always had very bad issues sleeping and waking "on time." In school this led to me regularly missing class and eventually dropping school entirely, and with regular work schedules I hardly ever got good sleep. A little while ago, I m…
Registered an account just to say "Me too". I've been on this rotating cycle for several years at this point (so can't really tell how it might affect depression). It's remarkable how similar the timing is too... I go around the clock about every month or so. Though I don't think I could stay on normal time even if I wanted to. Eventually I'll have a night of insomnia, where I overshoot my usual pattern by probably 6 hours. I've seen it mentioned before as the sleep disorder "non-24". It's normal to me, but it does feel like a disability by times.
Re: Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
#180> Most people’s natural cycle is somewhat longer than the 24-hour solar day, which means that, left to our own devices, we would get quickly get out of sync with the external world. I've always had very bad issues sleeping and waking "on time." In school this led to me regularly missing class and eventually dropping school entirely, and with regular work schedules I hardly ever got good sleep. A little while ago, I m…
Registered an account just to say "Me too". I've been on this rotating cycle for several years at this point (so can't really tell how it might affect depression). It's remarkable how similar the timing is too... I go around the clock about every month or so. Though I don't think I could stay on normal time even if I wanted to. Eventually I'll have a night of insomnia, where I overshoot my usual pattern by probably 6…
Thanks so much for registering and sharing! It's cool to see that somebody has made this work for a long period of time.
I also want to look into this and see what other people's experiences have been like.