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Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by zeotroph »

pjmlp wrote: post #6

Nice to know they still keep developing it. Window Maker became my favourite window manager around 1997, after trying out the majority of them since I installed Slackware 2.0 for the first time. I kept on using it until around 2006, when I switched back to Windows as my main desktop. Back the in day I had a nice collection of mini apples, pity that GNUStep never came to be fully integrated with it. Nowadays my GNU/Li…

As someone still using Window Maker, these mini-DockApps are a a reason why I keep using it. The dock is on the left or right, so it does not take the more precious vertical screenspace. And dockapps are reasonably sized (64x64 pixels by default) and thus can show useful information. I am especially fond of one showing CPU activity like blobs in a lava lamp (wmforkplop).

I also got very used to the way WM does virtual desktops, though KDE can be configured to behave nearly identical by now.

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by kitsunesoba »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #29
marricks wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moom for Mac is great with near perfect functionality. Hover over the "Fullscreen" button and you can select by a customizable grid for size and placement. Also quick half sized options.

I deeply love Moom because you can set it up to be tiled-with-gaps, which is ideal if you're still occasionally using your mouse to move stuff around.

Another fan here. There are other small utilities that provide the same functionality, but Moom is best to me because it doesn't hijack screen edges/corners, preventing accidental maximizing and playing more nicely with a workflow with an even mix of maximized and odd-sized windows.

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by kitsunesoba »

mavhc wrote: post #16
bcrescimanno wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I only wish it's possible to attach the app menu bar as well. The global menu bar approach of macOS and GNOME can feel a bit ridiculous on large displays. I personally disagree. It's still highly relevant to be able to "slam" the pointer upward to always land on the menu bar.

Problem is returning to where you came from again. RISC OS has the best menus, just click the mouse button anywhere in the window, maximum Fitts score, and you can select menu items and keep the menu open to select more, also select a menu item that has a submenu, and have windows as submenus, for palette selection etc

>Problem is returning to where you came from again.

I have cursor speed set high on all of my machines for this very reason. Easy to slam edges, minimal movement to get back to where you started. It takes a day or so to adjust to being precise with small hand movements, but it was totally worth it, at least for me.

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

#44

Post by Zardoz84 »

SwellJoe wrote: post #22

The "half-maximized" feature sounds great, and one of the things that I feel like no one has right, still. Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen). Gnome is clumsier than I'd like. I really would love a window manager that handles tiling well, but doesn't require complete buy-in to a fully tiled concept. I doubt I'll be g…

KDE had it many years ago.

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by [deleted] »

wernercd wrote: post #34
SwellJoe wrote: post #22

The "half-maximized" feature sounds great, and one of the things that I feel like no one has right, still. Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen). Gnome is clumsier than I'd like. I really would love a window manager that handles tiling well, but doesn't require complete buy-in to a fully tiled concept. I doubt I'll be g…

> Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen) Holy shit on a shingle... how did I not know about this magic incantation!

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Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by Zardoz84 »

zeotroph wrote: post #41
pjmlp wrote: post #6

Nice to know they still keep developing it. Window Maker became my favourite window manager around 1997, after trying out the majority of them since I installed Slackware 2.0 for the first time. I kept on using it until around 2006, when I switched back to Windows as my main desktop. Back the in day I had a nice collection of mini apples, pity that GNUStep never came to be fully integrated with it. Nowadays my GNU/Li…

As someone still using Window Maker, these mini-DockApps are a a reason why I keep using it. The dock is on the left or right, so it does not take the more precious vertical screenspace. And dockapps are reasonably sized (64x64 pixels by default) and thus can show useful information. I am especially fond of one showing CPU activity like blobs in a lava lamp (wmforkplop). I also got very used to the way WM does virtua…

what does WM that is special with virtual desktops?

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by Zardoz84 »

laumars wrote: post #11
digi_owl wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then Windows was never really designed to handle anything but explorer.exe as its "WM".

Windows 95 and 98 worked pretty well with alternative shells. I think originally the option was there just so users could run the classic 3.x shell (progman.exe I think it was called) but it was pretty trivial to write you own ones; as I often did when I was bored. You couldn't do much to change the title bars et al though.

Yeah. I remember using an alternative shell for Windows that improve it a lot. Evince or Evance I think that was called.

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by rhabarba »

digi_owl wrote: post #7
badminton1 wrote: post #5

Window Maker is great, inspired on NeXTSTEP. On Windows there is LiteStep which is free and fully customizable. Makes Windows more palatable.

But then Windows was never really designed to handle anything but explorer.exe as its "WM".

But you can easily replace your default "shell" from the registry, e.g. by KDE for Windows.

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by fiorix »

mixedbit wrote: post #13

Window Maker was my first encounter with virtual desktops and since I started using it I can no longer imagine working efficiently without virtual desktops. Was Window Maker the first manager that had virtual desktops?

My first encounter with virtual desktops was on AfterStep, and later on I migrated to Window Maker as it was becoming more popular in Brazil. But I think CDE had virtual desktops long before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment

Re: Window Maker 0.95.8 released

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Post by hashhar »

hashhar wrote: post #36
SwellJoe wrote: post #22

The "half-maximized" feature sounds great, and one of the things that I feel like no one has right, still. Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen). Gnome is clumsier than I'd like. I really would love a window manager that handles tiling well, but doesn't require complete buy-in to a fully tiled concept. I doubt I'll be g…

On that last statement of yours, keep this as a rule of thumb: If an API, 1.0 means stable. If an application, 1.0 means fully featured (as dictated by the author or community).

Why the downvote?
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