As an interesting anecdatum, I've noticed that when I binge-sleep, i.e. for more than 8.5 hours, I feel depressed.
Can sleep deprivation cure depression?
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#32This is very interesting. I hope to see treatments that not only uses melatonin and environmental light, but one that also modifies artificial light (indoor/computer/phone/TV/etc...) to optimize wellness. Kind of a F.lux of Things.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> fall outside of the bell curve You know that Gaussian distributions specifically include outliers.
You know it's just an expression right? If we change it to "fall outside of 2-sigma", will you allow us to return to the actual point, or will you continue with your passive-agressive hair-splitting?
I find it hard to tell the difference between between "just expressions" and things that are just accidentally inaccurate.
I hope you'll forgive me saying it sounds like you're having a rough day, and that maybe taking a break might do you some good. Venting on Hacker News might feel better in the short term but I don't think it's good for you or for the discussion.
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#34My experience is sleep deprivation increases depression
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#35I'm hoping that society will adjust to recognize this because it feels like in certain circles, saying that you need to sleep seems to be seen a weakness.
I think that's part of a near-universal fallacy that conflates good health with strength of character. In the situation you described, having the ability to shrug off lack of sleep is a source of pride, as if it was entirely about willpower; in fact it is more likely related to health.
There is even a genetic component to it, at least for a small portion of people.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genetic-mutation-...
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> fall outside of the bell curve You know that Gaussian distributions specifically include outliers.
You know it's just an expression right? If we change it to "fall outside of 2-sigma", will you allow us to return to the actual point, or will you continue with your passive-agressive hair-splitting?
The parent comment is factual. Your comment presumes motive.
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#37I don't know about sleep and depression. My Mom was bipolar and the topic never came up, other than her being up to all hours when she was manic.
But I recently read an interesting article about vitamin D and that lead me to supplement magnesium and vitamins D, A and K. I only do it once every three days to be conservative.
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/stop-vitamin-d
I also recently changed my evening routine during the week, cutting out TV and stopped eating chips after dinner.
For the morning and the evening changes, I devised a routine of things I do that make doing the hard parts easier. In the morning, I turn the light on, use the restroom, drink some water, set a timer for ten minutes, relax until it goes off, exercise, shower, dress and get out the door. I try to stick to this every day.
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#38The section in the article on jet lag mitigation was extremely confusing -- the author wrote of evening light and morning light but was unclear which time zone he was referring to.
Can someone explain a bit more clearly? If someone is traveling from SF to Europe or SF to Asia, when should melatonin and light be used optimally?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish we would all go on DST and be done with it forever. The extra hour of usable daylight after work is a net win for societies mental health. We have farming machines that do the heavy lifting and are mostly automated now anyway. Unlike when it was enacted, there simply are much fewer farmers.
I'd rather have the hour of daylight in the morning, so why not just stay on standard time? I'd also much rather work 7-3 than 9-5.
And I'd rather work 10-6...but I'd be happy either way, if we just did away with the time shift.
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#40As an interesting anecdatum, I've noticed that when I binge-sleep, i.e. for more than 8.5 hours, I feel depressed.
Yeah that happens to me too. It's almost like a sleep hangover. Very weird.