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Post by krrrh »

arcticbull wrote: post #384
malchow wrote: post #322

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Yes. Of course, there are native born citizens who suck the system dry, too. But a sovereign nation can dispense with illegal aliens. (And should.) Then we must turn to, you know, growing the economy fast enough to support this massive welfare state for the people who are constitutionally entitled to it -- both native born and legally immigrated. Or we could eviscerate the welfare state and be richer, freer, happier,…

Richer, freer, happier and healthier than the Norwegians , Swedes, Finns and Danes? Those are among the most extensive welfare states in the world, proividing: "[A] national system of free health care and education for everyone, job training, subsidized child care, a generous pension system and fuel subsidies and rent allowances for the elderly." [1] And on top of that, better healthcare (#11, 14, 23 are Norics, 30 i…

Additional stats that makes this even more interesting are rankings of economic freedom from places like the Heritage Foundation.[1] Canada and the Nordic countries are on par with the US, and on many important factors ahead.

It doesn't follow that a comprehensive social welfare system requires state ownership of the means of production, arduous regulation on business formation, weak property rights, weak rule of law, or anti-business labor laws. All of these countries do very well when on these factors; the citizens simply choose government services (through voting) in areas of the economy where the government performs well (health care, social insurance). Sweden was capitalistic enough to refuse to bail out SAAB during the financial crisis, you can't say the same for the US and GM.

[1] http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #788
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #780

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A large reason many people are pushing back against globalism is _because_ of this thinking -- capitalism is blind to political movements, quality of life for its people, or growing inequality. All that matters is the bottom line. If it's cheaper to do it elsewhere, it will move there. But if this leads to yet continued wealth inequality while the laborers work for less in worse conditions, is it a good thing that it…

The problem is that it is the US that has been forcing this down on other countries for decades if not centuries. And the US society benefited a lot from this. Read up on the Perry expedition.

Is the problem that the US has been doing it? I would argue that, with the internet, massively increased global communication, and a massively different economy from 1853 when the Perry expedition occurred, the problem isn't that the US used to do it long ago when imperialism was the norm, but rather that this form of globalist capitalism is becoming the norm worldwide, to the detriment of the lower and middle classes across the world.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by throwaway743824 »

ghaff wrote: post #787
throwaway743824 wrote: post #771

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Spoken as the incumbent. Of course it's a technical problem, as least as much as other SV companies. Hard tech hasn't been the edge for SV for many decades and it's getting even less important today. All the big companies has tried to tackle payments, but with lackluster results. What's "perfectly fine" for the US isn't in most of the rest of the world. Some of the more prominent startups in the UK, Germany and Swede…

It's almost as if different places have different cultures, social norms, and ways of doing things. Nah. That couldn't be it.

I don't see how that is adding anything to the discussion. If you want to be the leader you actually have to lead. You have to be the one that figures out "the future" and have the solution people didn't know they wanted before other people do. The "perks" of mobile payments should be fairly obvious to anyone who has experienced it, I suspect you and the parent just aren't one of those people. No one is going to stop the US to remain dysfunctional in infrastructure, but it still has a price.

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Post by rljy »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #785
rljy wrote: post #778

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I'll start with the following quote: """ Himmler - "Reduce Deaths at all Costs" Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued orders on December 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the concentration camps must be reduced at all costs" (Reitlinger, "The Final Solution"). The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever, emaciation and death can…

What's he point of Himmler's quote? He wanted to reduce deaths in a system in which the end goal was extermination? I agree with you that there are instances where Europeans wiped out natives and even where that was the mindset. The fact remains that the majority of Native Americans did not die due to systematic extermination. It is indisputable. The US had done bad things, but every single culture in the world has d…

> What's he point of Himmler's quote? He wanted to reduce deaths in a system in which the end goal was extermination?

My point is that you are denying the systematic genocide of the Native Americans. Just as the Nazis denied the systematic genocide of the Jews. Using exactly the same arguments.

> The fact remains that the majority of Native Americans did not die due to systematic extermination. It is indisputable.

It is also true that most Jews survived the Holocaust. Your point?

I have not read the entire book, as it is very long, but as far as I know Mein Kampf does not actually talk about genocide at all. It was not untill 1941, after the war had started, that Hitler first publicly mentioned the idea http://ww2history.com/key_moments/Holocaust/Hitler_talks_of_... He was hateful. Yes. But Donald Trump is hateful too.

> Hopefully when Trump does not become Hitler 2.0 you will admit you were wrong.

I don't think that Trump will become Hitler 2.0. But his supporters may well commit a genocide and cause either totaltarianism or mayhem. If they do not, I will not be wrong, just as I would not be wrong, if I were to say that cancer can kill a patient who subsiquently survives.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by hackermailman »

briandear wrote: post #477
neptunespear wrote: post #358

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$600 CAD/month for a bedroom in a house that's close to frequent transit and in a low-crime area isn't hard to find if you don't have your heart set on living right in downtown Vancouver. I am not going to pay $2200/month to live in gangland-torn East Menlo Park.

And a salary that's a tiny fraction of SV (or anywhere in the US for that matter.) I recently had someone offering $35/hour for a "Lead Ruby Engineer" contract role in Vancouver. Salaries are ridiculously low there which even with cheaper housing, results in far less disposable income.

Yep, no options either, and our dollar is expected to plummet below $0.63 USD over next 3 years too so making $20-25/hr USD as a senior developer if anybody foolishly moves here.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by mapleoin »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #780
kafkaesq wrote: post #469

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The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, Indeed. It wasn't formulated as political -- but the intrinsically the move does have significant political import (as a form of "voting with one's feet", as it were). Which has the potential to send signals that signs, slogans and marches (alone) cannot.

A large reason many people are pushing back against globalism is _because_ of this thinking -- capitalism is blind to political movements, quality of life for its people, or growing inequality. All that matters is the bottom line. If it's cheaper to do it elsewhere, it will move there. But if this leads to yet continued wealth inequality while the laborers work for less in worse conditions, is it a good thing that it…

In this case, though, isn't it working against those consequences that you mention? YC's contribution to a non-US company, in terms of guidance, doors opened etc., might be bigger than the money they get back through selling their share of the startups. This will be a net-negative for the US economy and would have created wealth, elevated working conditions etc. elsewhere in the world.

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Post by ghaff »

throwaway743824 wrote: post #793
ghaff wrote: post #787

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost as if different places have different cultures, social norms, and ways of doing things. Nah. That couldn't be it.

I don't see how that is adding anything to the discussion. If you want to be the leader you actually have to lead. You have to be the one that figures out "the future" and have the solution people didn't know they wanted before other people do. The "perks" of mobile payments should be fairly obvious to anyone who has experienced it, I suspect you and the parent just aren't one of those people. No one is going to stop…

My (admittedly snarky) point was that there are clear differences between countries in their preferences for payment systems that can't be chalked up to "dysfunctional infrastructure." And it's not a US vs. rest of world thing. Even across Europe there are clear differences in cash vs. debit card vs. credit card vs. etc. acceptance. And stored value cards (for use outside of transit systems) seems mostly to be an Asian thing. I have certainly used mobile phone payments in Europe where chip without PIN can sometimes be a bit of a pain because it's not part of the normal checkout process. In the US, I find just using a credit card is a bit easier even if I know a store accepts mobile payments.

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Post by dang »

27hours wrote: post #677

I'm new to the site. Seems you are controlling things around here (moderator to say). Why are my comments only visible when I'm logged in? as soon as I logout and look at the comments on this article as unregistered user, I do not see any of my comments. That gives false sense that everyone is looking at my comments but in reality they are being hidden. That makes me think other users even when they are logged in the…

Your comments were killed by anti-abuse software that detects past patterns by trolls. The software looks to me to have gotten it right. You've been posting comments that don't fit the site guidelines and creating multiple accounts to do it.

HN moderation is based on https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html, not YC.

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Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #792
cscurmudgeon wrote: post #788

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that it is the US that has been forcing this down on other countries for decades if not centuries. And the US society benefited a lot from this. Read up on the Perry expedition.

Is the problem that the US has been doing it? I would argue that, with the internet, massively increased global communication, and a massively different economy from 1853 when the Perry expedition occurred, the problem isn't that the US used to do it long ago when imperialism was the norm, but rather that this form of globalist capitalism is becoming the norm worldwide, to the detriment of the lower and middle classe…

There are winners and losers but overall economists agree free trade is good.

http://econpapers.repec.org/article/tafjeduce/v_3a34_3ay_3a2...

In any trade system, there will be losers.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by cr1895 »

tormeh wrote: post #551
jacquesm wrote: post #205

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52% income tax is only on income > 67K euros, below that it is tiered with the next level down being 40%. The wealth tax is subject to an exemption of the first 25K. Also important: there is no capital gains tax and healthcare costs are ~100 euros / month no matter what you earn.

No capital gains tax? Wow. So rich people in The Netherlands pay no taxes? Or is there a wealth tax?

https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontenten/...
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