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Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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I'm sure Canada has had several such incidents (some that happened more recently than 17 years ago), but I'd wager that you're still safer here from the police (across the board, but especially for minorities), than you are in the U.S.

Frankly, seen from Europe, most things 'police', 'safety', 'justice' are nothing short of wtf-grade in the US. It's surreal, it's one of the closest thing there is to dystopia (of the wrong kind) in the west. Arguably SF/Bay is a bit of an island (even politically) but still deeply embedded in the rather 'extreme' US culture. By comparison Canada, much like Sweden or Switzerland here, feels like a pretty 'normal' cou…

Sweden is now the rape capital of the West, with a rape rate twice that of the US. Its violent crime has skyrocketed the last 20 years and looks to keep getting worse. How do you consider that pretty normal?

Further, Europe on average has a higher violent crime rate than the US. Europe's largest nation by population - Russia - has nearly four times the murder rate of the US.

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What if it's because I oppose the muslim ban and refuse to enter the US? That's a serious question. Actually I feel like the response to that will be, "It's your choice" but hey solidarity man!

Have all Muslims been banned from the US? I thought it was only a set of countries draw up by Obama. Edit: Words are hard! Edit2: Yes, downvote me & upvote the hyperbole. Welcome to the post-fact world. All Muslims are banned. Trump is Hitler. The stock market's going to crash. Anyone right of Obama is racist scum who should lose their job. Etc.

Whats the rationale for banning even one? Were there any actual threats? There were certainly no attacks by immigrants/refugees from those countries.

According to you we should wait for things to reach peak bigotry before reacting. Would you have the same "oh no big deal" reaction if a single Christian country was banned mainly for being christian?

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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post #743

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly, seen from Europe, most things 'police', 'safety', 'justice' are nothing short of wtf-grade in the US. It's surreal, it's one of the closest thing there is to dystopia (of the wrong kind) in the west. Arguably SF/Bay is a bit of an island (even politically) but still deeply embedded in the rather 'extreme' US culture. By comparison Canada, much like Sweden or Switzerland here, feels like a pretty 'normal' cou…

Sweden is now the rape capital of the West, with a rape rate twice that of the US. Its violent crime has skyrocketed the last 20 years and looks to keep getting worse. How do you consider that pretty normal? Further, Europe on average has a higher violent crime rate than the US. Europe's largest nation by population - Russia - has nearly four times the murder rate of the US.

Where are you getting your statistics from?

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

#755

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have all Muslims been banned from the US? I thought it was only a set of countries draw up by Obama. Edit: Words are hard! Edit2: Yes, downvote me & upvote the hyperbole. Welcome to the post-fact world. All Muslims are banned. Trump is Hitler. The stock market's going to crash. Anyone right of Obama is racist scum who should lose their job. Etc.

Whats the rationale for banning even one? Were there any actual threats? There were certainly no attacks by immigrants/refugees from those countries. According to you we should wait for things to reach peak bigotry before reacting. Would you have the same "oh no big deal" reaction if a single Christian country was banned mainly for being christian?

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Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere. And once Vancouver or any other city starts working for them, Silicon Valley will lose its exclusivity. The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, but a response that came out of market demand; it is pretty significant if it works out.

Been hearing this since late nineties about how inability to get visas is going to be the death of US tech industry. Absolutely nothing has changed since h1b visa was initially implemented, its almost exactly the same when as it was conceived. And yet U.S tech industry is not dead.

>>And yet U.S tech industry is not dead.

Well not dead, but definitely lost out on total world domination.

There isn't much difference though. If you settle for a draw after once being in a unbeatable position, its as good as a loss.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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post #55

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Just because a few people from outside the US are worried about visa issues before applying to an incubator doesn't spell the end of Silicon Valley. The money, talent, and infrastructure to support startups (and large tech companies for that matter) aren't going away anytime soon and likely wouldn't go away even if we completely completely halted green card holders. Not that I would ever advocate something like that.

I don't think it's "a few people." It is everyone holding or desiring a US visa that is worried. I would contend that it is only the extent of that fear that is variable. Maybe I am wrong and there are visa holders feeling absolute confidence at the moment, but I would like to hear why from even one before considering your "a few people" categorization as anything but spin.

As someone that is look for jobs right now and talking with a lot of tech comapny in the US on the side, they just hold all tentative to get visas. O1 are still doable, but all H1B are on hold. If you are canadian, it is not a problem.

But all Europeans that would like to get visa are on hold right now. People that already have one are in limbo, worrying about how the coming ruling will affect them.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

#758

In light of recent events [0], there's a non-zero chance that some founders out there would rather avoid going to the US at all - if only to protest with their wallet. It might be more sensible to open a second incubator in the EU. Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin, Barcelona, there are plenty of options. (London is a good choice on paper too but pray tell what'll happen after Brexit.) [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/new…

Sydney! To your note about people avoiding the US - I've already seen this for personal travel. I was planning on doing a bit of a holiday around the country, but now the US just leaves such a sour place in my mouth and I would much rather go elsewhere. A number of my friends have made the same decision.

Same here. As "digitalnomad" curious to see the world the last place i am going to visit is the U.S. if even.

Not only the visa situation, but also the unstable political situation, racism and violence let me stay away.

This coming from someone currently in malaysia

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

#759

In light of recent events [0], there's a non-zero chance that some founders out there would rather avoid going to the US at all - if only to protest with their wallet. It might be more sensible to open a second incubator in the EU. Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin, Barcelona, there are plenty of options. (London is a good choice on paper too but pray tell what'll happen after Brexit.) [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/new…

"If only to protest with their wallet." Except that 'the wallet' is in the US, not somewhere else. I say this even as a Canadian. The money is not here.

As swiss resident i have no idea what you are talking about? Money in the us? :)

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

#760

If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere. And once Vancouver or any other city starts working for them, Silicon Valley will lose its exclusivity. The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, but a response that came out of market demand; it is pretty significant if it works out.

Unfortunately Trump and his supporters hate Silicon Valley so much they might not have a problem with that.
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