Well done S.Korea. Any tips for US?
Educate your electorate.
Since the 80's it's been quite the opposite. Whether by design or happy coincidence (for populists) education has been gutted.
South Korean President Impeached
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#32What's the minimum bar for convicting a sitting president again? ...asking for a friend.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? What about that comment was condescending? Do you not interpret this as a very important moment in South Korea's democracy?
I think he was saying that too many comments on HN begin with telling the readers how significant this thing is. It can come off as telling people how to feel about something rather than letting them interpret. But it really is the beginning of way too many top comments. I bet you'll see it everywhere now that you know to look. Your comment sounds like a BuzzFeed article, not actual analysis.
Man, that's the entire reason I read /r/worldnews. A ton of people compete to have the best recap on why something is relevant, and the best rises to the top.
Like, the point of comments is people putting out their opinions. In the process some people post who are more informed, and others less. Give it a few hours, and you can skim the top comments, and get a damned decent read on a situation.
If someone didn't want someone else to interpret an article, why'd they even bother reading comments?
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#34The South Korean presidential scandal is one of the odder bits of contemporary political history. Imagine an alternate-history US President Hillary Clinton being impeached over PizzaGate and it starts to get close. Besides the actual corruption mentioned in the article, there are credible reports swirling of a "8 Goddesses" cabal and various occult practices. http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-irrational-down…
Huh? PizzaGate was made up though.
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#35> The nation now must hold a presidential election within 60 days, making it likely to fall on May 9. This is different from how it works in USG where Congress elects a new President themselves from within Congress. At least that's what my understanding is from googling around, no President has been convicted in an impeachment trial. Edit: As later comments have pointed out I'm wrong here, instead the normal line of…
The US Congress does not choose a new president if the current president is removed. The normal line of succession applies: Vice President, then Speaker of the House, then President Pro Tem of the Senate, etc. This was clarified in the 25th amendment. No US president has been convicted in an impeachment trial, but when Nixon resigned, the normal rules of succession applied. Congress did appoint Gerald Ford as VP befo…
I was basing my previous comment off of this (which might not be reliable):
http://fsmsupremecourt.org/fsm/code/title02/T02_Ch01.htm
But it includes the line:
> If both the President and Vice President die, resign, or are impeached, the Speaker of the Congress shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the President as Acting President, and the Congress shall within thirty days of the last vacancy elect a President and Vice President, convening for that purpose if not in session, and declare vacancies in the Congress. If the Office of the Speaker is vacant, or if the Speaker dies or resigns from Congress during said thirty-day period, the Vice Speaker shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the President as Acting President.
Which seems to suggest that if VP is also impeached then the Speaker of the House is only temporarily President and Congress convenes a special election.
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#36This is huge. Early analysis is that this is a net positive for Korean democracy since the entire process, from protests to ouster was relatively peaceful and the people involved in the ouster tried to follow the rule of law as much as possible. It's exercised for the first time a part of the legal system that's never been explored in the country. At each stage of the very complex process, the government figured out…
My cousin is a historian of Korea, and well, Korean herself. She says this president is like Korea's GWB. Shamelessly very right wing, a lot of gaffes related to speech and behavior. There are going to be a lot of happy people tonight.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think he was saying that too many comments on HN begin with telling the readers how significant this thing is. It can come off as telling people how to feel about something rather than letting them interpret. But it really is the beginning of way too many top comments. I bet you'll see it everywhere now that you know to look. Your comment sounds like a BuzzFeed article, not actual analysis.
Man, that's the entire reason I read /r/worldnews. A ton of people compete to have the best recap on why something is relevant, and the best rises to the top. Like, the point of comments is people putting out their opinions. In the process some people post who are more informed, and others less. Give it a few hours, and you can skim the top comments, and get a damned decent read on a situation. If someone didn't want…
Executive summaries (aka summaries without statements by uninformed / non-inside sources)?
Statements of other facts or viewpoints that weren't considered?
Laying out the logical argument as to why this has an impact on the future of SK versus just stating they think it's significant?
Lots of reasons?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) Get a media figure* that commands the utmost respect of the population to report on corruption. 2) Get 2% of the population participating in a peaceful protest & demonstration to put pressure on congress. 3) ??? 4) profit!! * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sohn_Suk-hee
Media figure with utmost respect... in the US... scratches head We're hooped.
Things have to get really dystopian before an Edison Carter can appear.
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#39The South Korean presidential scandal is one of the odder bits of contemporary political history. Imagine an alternate-history US President Hillary Clinton being impeached over PizzaGate and it starts to get close. Besides the actual corruption mentioned in the article, there are credible reports swirling of a "8 Goddesses" cabal and various occult practices. http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-irrational-down…
Huh? PizzaGate was made up though.
And Hillary Clinton wasn't elected. As I said, imagine.
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#40As a Korean, I feel bittersweet for my mother country. It's embarrassing that this is happening, yet I feel relieved now that people of Korea can move forward - here's hoping for electing a more qualified president next.
Don't feel embarrassed. It's better that a country can actually fix its problems peacefully rather than outright denying it has a problem and trying to go on with business as usual. Peaceful resolution - for the better - is something to be proud of in a democracy.