Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
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Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
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Re: Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
#2Why does everything have to be a big deal these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
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#3Why does everything have to be a big deal these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
Because women should not have to "forgive, forget, move on" when it comes to being disrespected and having their career held back.
Re: Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
#4Why does everything have to be a big deal these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
Why does everyone have to complain about other people's complaints these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
Re: Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
#5Why does everything have to be a big deal these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
Because women should not have to "forgive, forget, move on" when it comes to being disrespected and having their career held back.
we have no idea what happened. it's possible the 3 men were sitting together talking while the woman boss was sitting farther away. it seems that whenever a mistake happens it must be because of your sex or race and nothing else.
Re: Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because women should not have to "forgive, forget, move on" when it comes to being disrespected and having their career held back.
we have no idea what happened. it's possible the 3 men were sitting together talking while the woman boss was sitting farther away. it seems that whenever a mistake happens it must be because of your sex or race and nothing else.
Yes, I agree. This must be an elaborate attempt by Raymond Chen to trick us into believing in gender bias.
Re: Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
#7Why does everything have to be a big deal these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
To forgive implies that someone is sorry for what happened. Non-apologies as mentioned in the post tends to mean that they aren't actually sorry, and just don't want to deal with the discomfort of being called out.
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#8Why does everything have to be a big deal these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
Once isn't a big deal.
If it happens all of the time (and this type of thing seems to) then that makes it a big deal.
Re: Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
#9Why does everything have to be a big deal these days? Forgive, forget, move on.
If nothing else, because people who screw up should have better manners.
You step on my foot, I notice and ask you to get off, and you immediately do and say "sorry" -> I forgive, forget, move on.
You step on my foot, I notice and ask you to get off and you delay, express surprise, finally do, and then explain, at length, that you didn't notice, aren't that heavy, meant nothing by it, but you're sorry if I'm offended (and it's the third time it's happened this year) -> kind of a big deal, because I'm getting very tired of this cp.
Re: Oh, you’re with them? (2016)
#10If you trained a neural network to recognize "high powered tech executives", it will likely start picking up on features associated with 30 to 40 year old (mostly white) males wearing sweaters or "business casual" attire. It probably would report a low value if you showed it a minority female. (Google "tech executive" on Google images to test this out.)
Human beings are really advanced neural networks, trained on years of sensory data, along with lots of bias factors. This is why things like sexism and racism are often self-perpetuating. People aren't used to commonly seeing a female, minority woman in a high position, so they don't expect it, and therefore that expectation becomes part of their bias in the future.
There are only two solutions:
(1) Do things to create more minority female tech executives, so we all expect it.
(2) Do things to make people better at hiding their biases.
Obviously, we need to do both if this situation is ever going to change.