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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by kintamanimatt »

mizzack wrote: post #415
illumin8 wrote: post #383

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My grandfather owned many apple orchards, and he said without migrant labor, he would have had to go out of business years ago. He could not hire US citizens as workers because nobody that is born here wants to climb trees all day picking fruit for minimum wage. This was back in the 80s. He also had very good things to say about how hard-working and dedicated the migrant workers were. Now, you might argue that withou…

> The narrative that illegal immigrants are all criminals is deeply flawed and inaccurate. Illegal immigrants are, by definition, all criminals.

It's not a criminal offense. Not everything that is unlawful is criminal.

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Post by nostrademons »

pizzetta wrote: post #409
mcphage wrote: post #404

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> That the US is becoming more isolationist --which would seem to contradict the US becoming more interventionist. Trump wants to beef up our military spending—what do you think he's going to do with all that extra hardware?

Modernization? Do you think it's likely he'll be more interventionist than the Obama years? It's hard to imagine that, but of course it's possible, the question is is it likely?

Obama was actually very restrained in foreign policy - far moreso than Hillary Clinton would've been, for example, and also moreso than Bush Jr., Reagan, or even Bill Clinton. He's relied largely on drone strikes and covert assistance, while the other presidents mentioned actually invaded other countries. Obama's own national security staff criticized him heavily for this.

Anyway, I didn't mention political parties in my original post, and AFAIC trying to make this partisan is just projection. There are hawks on both sides of the aisle: the Democrats are milking Russophobia for all it's worth and seem to want to start a new Cold War, the Trumpists see the world as a clash of civilizations between the Judeochristian West and Islam, and old-line Republicans like McCain and Graham are very skeptical of Iran and China.

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Post by jimmyk »

chongli wrote: post #472
jimmyk wrote: post #458

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You said "If you collected statistics about Americans in the back of a squad car, you'd conclude that Americans are a bunch of criminals (shocker of shockers).". I'm challenging you on that. I think your statistics would show that certain classes of Americans are comparatively very criminally oriented, and certain classes of Americans are not. Similarly, if you collected statistics about foreigners in the back of a s…

I think your statistics would show that certain classes of Americans are comparatively very criminally oriented, and certain classes of Americans are not. I didn't say anything about certain classes of Americans. I said that if you sampled the back of a squad car, you'd conclude that Americans are a bunch of criminals in general. That is the point. Asking a police officer about their experiences with immigrants is ex…

Asking a police officer about their experiences with immigrants is extremely biased.

So I ask again (and I won't use students this time, since you didn't get the point the first time): If you asked police officers about their experiences with immigrants here on E1 visas, would you conclude that people here on E1 visas are a bunch of criminals? What does that tell you about people here on E1 visas?

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Post by matthewmacleod »

mikeash wrote: post #142
crazy1van wrote: post #49

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Are there any stats on how many prior YC founders were from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, or Yemen?

A brief search turned up one from Sudan. I don't know where to find a comprehensive list. Don't forget to include non-Americans with dual citizenship. Someone "from" a totally unrelated country might still have citizenship in one of the banned countries and would not be allowed in. See Mo Farah as a prominent example. I imagine the main concern here is uncertainty, though. The original travel ban was introduced with…

It's worth pointing out that the new executive order explicitly exempts dual nationals from the ban. Not that I think that's practically any better.

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Post by dragonwriter »

ajmurmann wrote: post #460
nl wrote: post #450

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Obviously this is a joke. In case it isn't: the war that would follow an attempted Calexit might be slightly detrimental to startups in the Bay Area.

Why would there be a war? Large parts of the country seem very resentful towards California. Seems like both sides would be happier without each other. Edit: I obviously don't think a Calexit will happen but I'm just curious why you think it would result in a war.

> Why would there be a war?

There'd be a war because of ports, military facilities, oil, and, because, politically California may on average be more slightly liberal than the rest of the US, but overall it looks a lot like the US as a whole, with very liberal coastal enclaves and an ultraconservative inland agricultural heartland, and much of the latter would revolt from California to stay in the US in the event of an attempted Calexit.

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Post by echevil »

khuey wrote: post #297
xiaoma wrote: post #152

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I completely agree that visas are a problem but I disagree that they will be "the problem" to unseat Silicon Valley as the world nexus of startups. I've spent most my adult life in Asia and have lived in several countries and cities that claim to be very serious about becoming the next tech hub. None of them have very liberal immigration policies. All have visas for highly skilled workers, all have visas for entrepre…

I agree that the most critical weakeness of Silicon Valley is real estate costs. I find it hard to imagine Beijing as a serious competitor though. If it were going to be anywhere in China I would expect it to be Shenzhen.

Real estate costs in Shenzhen rose dramatically as well. It's not much better than Beijing now

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Post by echevil »

khuey wrote: post #297
xiaoma wrote: post #152

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I completely agree that visas are a problem but I disagree that they will be "the problem" to unseat Silicon Valley as the world nexus of startups. I've spent most my adult life in Asia and have lived in several countries and cities that claim to be very serious about becoming the next tech hub. None of them have very liberal immigration policies. All have visas for highly skilled workers, all have visas for entrepre…

I agree that the most critical weakeness of Silicon Valley is real estate costs. I find it hard to imagine Beijing as a serious competitor though. If it were going to be anywhere in China I would expect it to be Shenzhen.

Real estate costs in Shenzhen rose dramatically as well. It's not much better than Beijing now

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Post by reggieband »

sdm wrote: post #453
Pxtl wrote: post #276

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http://globalnews.ca/news/2477598/vancouver-ranked-3rd-least... Vancouver is, apparently, worse than SF.

Sigh... The annual Demographia study is mostly BS. First, they only look at a handful of Anglosphere countries and yet claim to cover the world; Second, they have strong ties to the automotive industry and have an agenda of urban sprawl -- this leads them to target negatively cities that are fighting sprawl, like Vancouver; Third, their only metric for affordability is housing price yet places where there is a more d…

> And the notion that SF is more affordable than Vancouver is just laughable if you've lived in both places.

I have lived in both SF and Vancouver and I don't find it laughable at all. I also now live in NYC and have previously lived in London, UK. My experience may be anecdotal but it is representative. Of all the places I have just listed, I saved the least amount of money when I lived in Vancouver. To be clear, the amount of money I put away each month after all expenses was lowest in Vancouver.

In fact, the number of devs being recruited from Vancouver down to SF should be an indication of how much more financially attractive it is to work down there. I can't even imagine someone from SF choosing to make the move to Vancouver.

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