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Why Women Don’t Apply for Jobs Unless They’re 100% Qualified (2014)

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> You’ve probably heard the following statistic: Men apply for a job when they meet only 60% of the qualifications, but women apply only if they meet 100% of them.

Ah, I had not. Landing a job I don't know how to do 2/5ths of sounds awful.

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Anecdotal evidence. I used to feel more strongly of the 100% qualified and I know many other men who have as well.

There was a point in college that I didn't apply for a scholarship because I didn't have the 3.0 GPA requirement at the time, I had like a 2.95

About 7 months later I found out that a student with a 2.2 GPA had received the scholarship because so few people had applied, they were able to give them to everyone who applied, regardless of qualifications. That was the moment I realized that not everything is written in stone and even if you don't stand a chance, you still should make an attempt at pursuing things.

Indirectly, since then I have encouraged all my friends, both men and women to apply for jobs or things that they are interested in, regardless of qualifications. Sometimes interest/passion alone can help get you a job, or perhaps they will create a more junior position just for you; it is not unheard of to do such a thing.

Since I learned the lesson, there has probably been at least 7 different times in my life, that a rule/qualification was bent or changed that benefited me, because I simply tried for it.

Re: Why Women Don’t Apply for Jobs Unless They’re 100% Qualified (2014)

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> You’ve probably heard the following statistic: Men apply for a job when they meet only 60% of the qualifications, but women apply only if they meet 100% of them. Ah, I had not. Landing a job I don't know how to do 2/5ths of sounds awful.

depending on who's writing up the "qualifications" though, a lot of them are probably bullshit

Re: Why Women Don’t Apply for Jobs Unless They’re 100% Qualified (2014)

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I had to convince female I know to apply for a position she wasn't exactly qualified for. She did and got the job. Women are socialized to not be as aggressive here in the US, which is a shame because there are lots of bad people in jobs just because a better woman never thought to apply.

Re: Why Women Don’t Apply for Jobs Unless They’re 100% Qualified (2014)

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> You’ve probably heard the following statistic: Men apply for a job when they meet only 60% of the qualifications, but women apply only if they meet 100% of them. Ah, I had not. Landing a job I don't know how to do 2/5ths of sounds awful.

depending on who's writing up the "qualifications" though, a lot of them are probably bullshit

"10+ years of experience writing production systems in Elm" was a nice gem I saw recently.

Re: Why Women Don’t Apply for Jobs Unless They’re 100% Qualified (2014)

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> You’ve probably heard the following statistic: Men apply for a job when they meet only 60% of the qualifications, but women apply only if they meet 100% of them. Ah, I had not. Landing a job I don't know how to do 2/5ths of sounds awful.

depending on who's writing up the "qualifications" though, a lot of them are probably bullshit

I am a fan of 10 years experience required in X. When X has only been around for 4 years.

Re: Why Women Don’t Apply for Jobs Unless They’re 100% Qualified (2014)

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post #3

Anecdotal evidence. I used to feel more strongly of the 100% qualified and I know many other men who have as well. There was a point in college that I didn't apply for a scholarship because I didn't have the 3.0 GPA requirement at the time, I had like a 2.95 About 7 months later I found out that a student with a 2.2 GPA had received the scholarship because so few people had applied, they were able to give them to eve…

Yep, this is a good mentality to have. I applied to a job after graduating from college that asked for 2-5+ years of experience. I was able to cite some project experience from school and from a 4 month co-op. Was enough to get an interview, and I took it from there to get a job offer.

Re: Why Women Don’t Apply for Jobs Unless They’re 100% Qualified (2014)

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Hate to sound like a strawman, but: why should this my problem? Unfortunately that's the nature of the game. Many software roles are like that. You just have to apply anyway. Other hidden biases women face, OK, got it, but this is a problem that occurs before any dialogue takes place.

Now whether or not that advice gets properly dispensed is another issue.

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