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#2Unicode is fucked. All these bullshit emojis remind me of the 1980s when ASCII was 7 bits but every computer manufacturer (Atari, Commodore, Apple, IBM, TI, etc...) made their own set of characters for the 128 values of a byte beyond ASCII. Of course Unicode is a global standard so your pile-of-poop emoji will still be a pile-of-poop on every device even if the amount of steam is different for some people.
It's beyond me why this is happening. Who decides which bullshit symbols get into the standard anyway?
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#3Unicode is fucked. All these bullshit emojis remind me of the 1980s when ASCII was 7 bits but every computer manufacturer (Atari, Commodore, Apple, IBM, TI, etc...) made their own set of characters for the 128 values of a byte beyond ASCII. Of course Unicode is a global standard so your pile-of-poop emoji will still be a pile-of-poop on every device even if the amount of steam is different for some people. It's beyon…
Meet the shadowy overlords who approve emojis[0]
[0] http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-emoji-q-...
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#4Unicode is fucked. All these bullshit emojis remind me of the 1980s when ASCII was 7 bits but every computer manufacturer (Atari, Commodore, Apple, IBM, TI, etc...) made their own set of characters for the 128 values of a byte beyond ASCII. Of course Unicode is a global standard so your pile-of-poop emoji will still be a pile-of-poop on every device even if the amount of steam is different for some people. It's beyon…
Language is inherently complex, there's no way to solve this in any "cleaner" way than what we already came up with. Unfortunately the best way forward is to build up what we already have and cover all the warts with wrapper functions/libraries.
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#5The Unicode standard describes in Annex 29 [1] how to properly split strings into grapheme clusters. And here [2] is a JavaScript implementation. This is a solved problem.
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#6Unicode is fucked. All these bullshit emojis remind me of the 1980s when ASCII was 7 bits but every computer manufacturer (Atari, Commodore, Apple, IBM, TI, etc...) made their own set of characters for the 128 values of a byte beyond ASCII. Of course Unicode is a global standard so your pile-of-poop emoji will still be a pile-of-poop on every device even if the amount of steam is different for some people. It's beyon…
There is a Unicode encoding "UTF-32" which has the advantage of being fixed width. This is not popular for the obvious reason that even ascii characters are expanded to 4 bytes. Additionally the windows APIs, among other interfaces, are not equipped to handle 4-byte codepages.
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#7> Sometimes, I think people come up with these names just to add excitement to their lives.
Let's get outta here guys, we've been rumbled!
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#8The thing that frustrates me the most about Unicode emoji is the astounding number of combining characters. For combining characters in written languages, you can do an NFC normalization and, with moderate success, get a 1 codepoint = 1 grapheme mapping, but "Emoji 2.0" introduced some ridiculous emoji compositions with the ZWJ character.
To use the author's example:
woman - 1 codepoint
black woman - 2 codepoints, woman + dark Fitzpatrick modifier
️woman kissing woman - 7 codepoints, woman + ZWJ + heart + ZWJ + kissy lips + ZWJ + woman
It's like composing Mayan pictographs, except you have to include an invisible character in between each component.
Here's another fun one: country flags. Unicode has special characters 🇱 🇮 🇰 🇪 🇹 🇭 🇮 🇸 that you can combine into country codes to create a flag. 🇰+🇷 = 🇰🇷
edit: looks like HN strips emoji? Changed the emoji in the example into English words. They are all supposed to render as a single "character".
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#9The thing that frustrates me the most about Unicode emoji is the astounding number of combining characters. For combining characters in written languages, you can do an NFC normalization and, with moderate success, get a 1 codepoint = 1 grapheme mapping, but "Emoji 2.0" introduced some ridiculous emoji compositions with the ZWJ character. To use the author's example: woman - 1 codepoint black woman - 2 codepoints, w…
Man, imagine if you could compose chinese characters out of radicals like this.
I'm not sure if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.
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#10Unicode is fucked. All these bullshit emojis remind me of the 1980s when ASCII was 7 bits but every computer manufacturer (Atari, Commodore, Apple, IBM, TI, etc...) made their own set of characters for the 128 values of a byte beyond ASCII. Of course Unicode is a global standard so your pile-of-poop emoji will still be a pile-of-poop on every device even if the amount of steam is different for some people. It's beyon…
If anything, their adaptability gives me confidence. They have little power to stop vendors from creating new emojis that are morphologically distinct from existing ones, so they might as well wrangle them into a standard.