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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by wpietri »

refurb wrote: post #43
GuiA wrote: post #40

The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, you can bet that things will reverse quickly. Good bye, world leading startups, nobel prizes, top universities, etc. These things can happen faster than o…

If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace...the best thing countries like China could do right now is heavily fund things such as foreign PhD students. Wait, so you're saying everyone is leaving fascist USA, but China will be the beneficiary of that?

> Wait, so you're saying everyone is leaving fascist USA, but China will be the beneficiary of that?

In recent years, the US has turned noticeably anti-science, anti-immigrant, anti-elite, and anti-government-support-of-almost-everything, including education, health care, the arts, science, and infrastructure. Whereas China has been energetic about pursuing global leadership in a variety of areas, and they're not shy about spending.

It would not shock me at all to see China take advantage of the US's turn to appeal to bright foreigners who just want to do their thing. The US previously did well because we were welcoming to immigrants and serious about having world-class universities doing world-class research. If we throw away our advantages and China makes up its deficits, why wouldn't more talent pick China?

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by dmode »

As someone who is tired of the decades long wait and uncertainty in the US immigration system, it would be amazing if tech companies were to open a Vancouver outpost and offer transfers to people in visas. I would take that in a heartbeat. May be YC can consider another incubator in Vancouver

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by joshuaheard »

sqeaky wrote: post #105
67726e wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> some people perceive the US to be worse than China. Those people are dangerously ignorant.

Why do you say that? I did not downvote you. And would be interested real and objective criteria for assessing which country is "worse" ethically or "worse" by some criteria you select.

China forces its citizens to have abortions if they have more than 2 children, and they censor the internet, so you can't access social media, like Facebook for instance. So, I would say they are ethically worse than the U.S.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by doh »

homakov wrote: post #121

Weird choice of country for this purpose. I wonder who needs visa to the US and doesn't need one to Canada, and I'm pretty sure the number is small.

As others pointed out, Canada recently made mandatory their eTA program which is very similar to US ESTA, so the differences are non-existent anymore.

Original text: The number is huge. For instance the whole EU doesn't need visa for Canada [0] but it does for US (although it's called a waiver program [1], which guarantees nothing).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Canada#Visa_exe... [1] https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-...

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by ojbyrne »

exabrial wrote: post #20

Who is having trouble getting a Visa exactly? Just curious, trying to separate fact from hysteria

Trump's "extreme vetting" combined with the federal hiring freeze applied to USCIS means every visa application is going to take longer.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by pm90 »

pvg wrote: post #106
GuiA wrote: post #40

The lead the US has had in science/engineering/technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes. If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, you can bet that things will reverse quickly. Good bye, world leading startups, nobel prizes, top universities, etc. These things can happen faster than o…

Which particular fascist regimes do you have in mind? In news from Spain, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

Fascism, much like Nazism is not restricted to the regime/party that originated them. It is now generally used to label all groups that show similar attributes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by homakov »

sremani wrote: post #12

May be this is a dumb question, I will ask it anyway, Tijuana Mexico is about 500 miles from Bay Area, where as Vancouver Canada is 1000 miles. Que Canada?

Oh boy, I really doubt anyone who stepped on TJ grounds wants to ever come back. Especially not YC people

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by wpietri »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #108
wfo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, if funding to research is cut in the US via Trump policies (or even remains small as is currently the case) and China jumps on this opportunity to snatch the world's best talent, the question for brilliant young students will be China, a fascist regime where you are funded, or the US, a slightly less fascist regime where you are not funded and face hate crime, discrimination, and constant threats to your abi…

So why do so many Chinese students chose to come to the US for college? Do they not know that China is better? To call the US a slightly less fascist regime than China is wrong. Go read up on human rights violations in China some time. Other areas of concern include the lack of legal recognition of human rights and the lack of an independent judiciary, rule of law, and due process. Further issues raised in regard to…

> So why do so many Chinese students chose to come to the US for college? [...] To call the US a slightly less fascist regime than China is wrong.

You aren't reading very carefully. They're speaking of a plausible hypothetical future. Whereas your evidence is from a past that, even if it's a few months ago, now seems quite distant.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by tarikjn »

ddebernardy wrote: post #118

In light of recent events [0], there's a non-zero chance that some founders out there would rather avoid going to the US at all - if only to protest with their wallet. It might be more sensible to open a second incubator in the EU. Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin, Barcelona, there are plenty of options. (London is a good choice on paper too but pray tell what'll happen after Brexit.) [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/new…

Let's not forget the upcoming European elections. Bar that, even as a French citizen, I would actually give my vote to Amsterdam as being probably one of the best places to start a startup in Europe.
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