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Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#101

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It modifies your behaviour in ways that aren't in your interest.

And how's that different than advertisements in News Papers/magazines and TV? People never seemed to have a problem with that, and no one ever said "you are the product". Somehow, that is associated mostly only with Google.

The precision with which it can be done.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#102
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Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

Google didn't invent this: Luis von Ahn, a CMU grad student did in 2000. Google acquired it in 2009.

https://www.cylab.cmu.edu/partners/success-stories/recaptcha...

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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I actually feed google false information (select rectangular objects when asked to select traffic signs, flat surfaces when asked for water surfaces, and so on). It'll probably be filtered out when aggregated with other users, but I like to think that I'm at least influencing it even if a little. I wouldn't have a problem if they'd open the data set, but I'm not exactly keen on being forced to work for free.

So you'd do the work if it were not productive but not otherwise? Like, if they just threw away your input into the CAPTCHA after confirming you're human, you're okay with that? Or do you just hate CAPTCHAs on principle?

It's an ethical distinction for some. I am completely fine with a type of captcha that helps improve some public domain or free/libre licensed resource (e.g., proofreading words scanned from public domain works). I am not okay with helping some megacorporation sanitize their proprietary database or training their machine learning neural networks for free.

As mentioned elsewhere in this topic; I'd much rather spend some of my free time to help improve OpenStreetMap (and I do).

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

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post #95

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So you'd do the work if it were not productive but not otherwise? Like, if they just threw away your input into the CAPTCHA after confirming you're human, you're okay with that? Or do you just hate CAPTCHAs on principle?

It's an ethical distinction for some. I am completely fine with a type of captcha that helps improve some public domain or free/libre licensed resource (e.g., proofreading words scanned from public domain works). I am not okay with helping some megacorporation sanitize their proprietary database or training their machine learning neural networks for free. As mentioned elsewhere in this topic; I'd much rather spend so…

But what if it's a generic captcha. It doesn't improve anything. Are you okay with that?

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#105
post #58

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>I mean does this mean google is going to keep track of what I would be doing when I visit a site? Oh buddy, I have bad news for you... https://support.google.com/dfp_premium/answer/1716364?hl=en https://www.google.com/analytics/#?modal_active=none https://www.doubleclickbygoogle.com/solutions/measurement/

Wow, I never heard of Pixel Tracking. That sounds super evil. Are there browser plugins to fight back on this one?

I use RequestPolicy. It prevents a web-site to call another web-site unless I allow.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#106
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Google using captchas to get humans to read street addresses captured by street view cars to improve maps results remains one of the most Googly things they've ever done. Genius, lateral, and a little weird.

I wonder how long until they place some native ads in there so that publishers could earn a penny.

Solvemedia does something [1] like this. The experience is horrible.

Doesn't help that I only see it on fairly shady websites, same kind that use adf.ly, pop-unders and other obnoxious monetization schemes.

[1] - http://solvemedia.com/publishers/

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#107
I started making my own as Google Recaptcha was getting annoying. At its most basic, hide a field. On your PHP page that does the checking, simply see if that field has anything in it. If it does, its a bot. If it doesn't, it's not a bot.

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#109

I started making my own as Google Recaptcha was getting annoying. At its most basic, hide a field. On your PHP page that does the checking, simply see if that field has anything in it. If it does, its a bot. If it doesn't, it's not a bot.

Do you use inline styles to hide the field or "obfuscate" it through a CSS class?

Re: Introducing the Invisible reCAPTCHA

#110

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I actually feed google false information (select rectangular objects when asked to select traffic signs, flat surfaces when asked for water surfaces, and so on). It'll probably be filtered out when aggregated with other users, but I like to think that I'm at least influencing it even if a little. I wouldn't have a problem if they'd open the data set, but I'm not exactly keen on being forced to work for free.

But you use their service for free, right?

Neither the host or google ask for money in exchange for their services. The profitability of their chosen business model is not my concern.

If they want something in return, perhaps they should consider setting up a paywall.

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