Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
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Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
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Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#2Thanks for posting this!
Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#3Poking around, I don't immediately see spelled out the benefit: what is the advantage of building "without a single line of code?"
If the complexity of the app is the same, won't it be just as involved to build with this alternative interface?
Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#4The title is kind of misleading. The websites and Apps were indeed built with hundreds of lines of code, and are being sold/are for rent on the given platform.
I honestly do not see a big difference compared to other services which offer you pre-built blogs, websites etc.
Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#5The title is kind of misleading. The websites and Apps were indeed built with hundreds of lines of code, and are being sold/are for rent on the given platform. I honestly do not see a big difference compared to other services which offer you pre-built blogs, websites etc.
The linked http://builtwithoutcode.com/ appears to be a certified partner of the platform.
For the actual platform, check out https://bubble.is/
Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#6Poking around, I don't immediately see spelled out the benefit: what is the advantage of building "without a single line of code?" If the complexity of the app is the same, won't it be just as involved to build with this alternative interface?
Reading their marketing page, seems like they have a visual programming language that lets users build custom workflows using high-level components. Seems useful - there's plenty of demand for websites that are "smarter" than what a CMS with a few plugins allow you to build, yet are not complex enough to require the full power of a turing-complete language. It's a bit like Excel for the web.
The Achilles' heel of these platforms tends to be the edges; when user needs a bit more than what it can provide out-of-the-box, can they extend it, and without creating a monster? I mean, we build custom business software based on a modular platform, and the story always goes like,
"We need a few POS terminals for a store." ... installs pre-built module ... "And an integrated ecommerce store." ... installs pre-built module ... "And the POS should integrate with an NFC reader to allow purchases with a shop card." ... and then we present a quote for the custom integration.
Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#7The title is kind of misleading. The websites and Apps were indeed built with hundreds of lines of code, and are being sold/are for rent on the given platform. I honestly do not see a big difference compared to other services which offer you pre-built blogs, websites etc.
in fact all those apps and websites were built on Bubble - it's a visual programming platform that allows creating apps without code. There is no code behind those apps. Only Bubble platform. the link is bubble.is
Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#8Poking around, I don't immediately see spelled out the benefit: what is the advantage of building "without a single line of code?" If the complexity of the app is the same, won't it be just as involved to build with this alternative interface?
The benefit is that it's a few times faster and easier to create apps of same complexity with a no code tool like Bubble (bubble.is). There is a slight risk to hit the wall with some limitations but it should be something extraordinarily complex.
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#9I often feel like there is an opportunity for a hybrid model. Build the app "without code" but then pay to download the code and customize it to your will / deploy on your own infrastructure.
Not saying this would happen with this company but if you don't own the code you are just (as another poster put it) renting your app. If the company you are renting from goes under or raises their prices you are out of luck and the cost of recovering might actually be higher than the cost of having just used a traditional platform in the first place.
Not saying I don't believe in those systems. I was one of the founding engineers at a company that did WYSIWYG website creation tools in the early 2000s (think Squarespace only not). I just think customers need to be aware of the concept of vendor lock in and data portability.
Edit: another important point is time to market. If your intent is to use an app like this to prove product market fit before going out and building something custom that might make a lot of sense depending on your use case.
Re: Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code
#10I often feel like there is an opportunity for a hybrid model. Build the app "without code" but then pay to download the code and customize it to your will / deploy on your own infrastructure. Not saying this would happen with this company but if you don't own the code you are just (as another poster put it) renting your app. If the company you are renting from goes under or raises their prices you are out of luck and…
What you say makes sense. But that just makes the subscription model of those platform obsolete. Bubble does offer an option to host the app on dedicated infrastructure but it will be still runnin on bubble with a paid subscription. Another thing is - bubble promised if they ever go out of business and shut down they will make their code open source so that everyone can continue running their apps built on Bubble using their own servers. It sounds fair enough to me.