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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

mikeyouse wrote: post #544
djsumdog wrote: post #541

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That doesn't explain the photos of the car's aftermath. I mean, it's just as likely people pressured his family to say this (either organized crime or the government .. really the same thing). It's not dying because it's highly suspicious and the narrative doesn't fit, the news reports are conflicting and much of the evidence is gone.

> That doesn't explain the photos of the car's aftermath. Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds? I take it you're an experienced crash-scene investigator? How exactly would an accident scene differ if the accident were caused by a CIA-backed exploit vs. your standard high speed crash? > I mean, it's just as likely people pressured his family to say this (either organized crime or the government .. really the same…

> Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds?

As ridiculous as shutting down discussions about the unusual circumstances of his death with "it's so incredibly disrespectful to his family"?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by chiaro »

tmccrmck wrote: post #569
Daishiman wrote: post #534

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I think that anyone who has been following the Wikileaks social media accounts has noticed what can only be described as a blatant subverting of those accounts by another party.

What are some examples?

Feeding alt-right conspiracy theories

1. https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794450623404113920

2. https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-echoes-tweet-anti-...

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by vacri »

hollander wrote: post #900
giaour wrote: post #871

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Assange is hiding from the government of the United Kingdom, which has agreed to extradite him to Sweden, where he faces trial for rape.

This is an excellent example of telling the facts while distracting from the truth. He's afraid that he will be extradited to the US after being extradited to Sweden. The rape accusations are thought to be just a trick to get him to Sweden. If he had the guarantee that he would not be extradited he would go to Sweden immediately.

I used to support Assange, but that fell away when finally Sweden agreed to interview him at the embassy as per his request... and he demanded that the interview questions be submitted as a document... and in Spanish. A Swedish prosecutor interrogating an anglo-Australian man residing in England in Spanish? With preprepared questions only? That's clearly obstructing the course of justice beyond the concern for his extradition.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by xenotb »

pmarreck wrote: post #773
ismay wrote: post #576

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He very clearly explained his motives for not doing so in the AMA, and he gave an alternate POL by reading from the blockchain. This whole narrative of Wikileaks not being neutral is a very weird story, because they've never published anything that wasn't verified to be true. Since that's something they can't be attacked on, it seems that the strategy for discrediting Wikileaks has now become to accuse them of associ…

If I hacked two people's private emails who were in some popularity contest, and they both contained severely incriminating things, and I only release 1 of those to the public, then I believe it is arguable that I have gone beyond mere truth-disclosure and on to outright manipulation.

I'm out of the loop; whose emails did they not release? Trump's?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by [deleted] »

unityByFreedom wrote: post #823
ismay wrote: post #576

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He very clearly explained his motives for not doing so in the AMA, and he gave an alternate POL by reading from the blockchain. This whole narrative of Wikileaks not being neutral is a very weird story, because they've never published anything that wasn't verified to be true. Since that's something they can't be attacked on, it seems that the strategy for discrediting Wikileaks has now become to accuse them of associ…

> they've never published anything that wasn't verified to be true Says the 21 day old account with this single, highly upvoted comment. There are millions of documents on Wikileaks. I highly doubt everything there is verified.

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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by rubyfan »

mhneu wrote: post #870
rubyfan wrote: post #692

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This is the approach used by both left and right parties in the U.S. The parties and their surrogates attempt to taint sources as biased and by proxy all content from the source invalid.

No, this is not true. We now have data showing that the left tends to read both mainstream and left sources. While the right tends to live in their own little Fox-Breitbart bubble. This means that the right gets news from extremely biased sources with no anchor in reality. While the left tends to read and share a wider variety of media. http://www.cjr.org/analysis/breitbart-media-trump-harvard-st... It's also been sh…

What part of what I said is not true?

Are you asserting both parties are not guilty or one is more guilty than the other.

In any case I don't think what I said is untrue or was an attempt to mislead.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by Paradigma11 »

coldtea wrote: post #896
Cookingboy wrote: post #646

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Because we don't live in a Disney movie where everyone gets along and lives happily ever after? Do you think if we get rid of CIA the Russians will just disband the FSB? The Chinese will just suddenly become transparent and stop all international espionage? The entire world will suddenly love US and try to suck up to the biggest superpower?

> Because we don't live in a Disney movie where everyone gets along and lives happily ever after? Do you think if we get rid of CIA the Russians will just disband the FSB? No, but I'm not American, and I know that 80% of the world has been royally fucked over (toppling governments, meddling, dictatorships supported) by the CIA, whereas few have had any issues with FSB (just/mainly their neighboring countries, and not…

(And concerning "territories they claim as their own", it takes a lot of "down-with-whataboutism-lalala-hands-in-the-ears" for US to point to Nepal and forget Puerto Rico, or for that matter Hawaii. And let's not go further back...)

What about Nepal?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by coldtea »

Paradigma11 wrote: post #927
coldtea wrote: post #896

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> Because we don't live in a Disney movie where everyone gets along and lives happily ever after? Do you think if we get rid of CIA the Russians will just disband the FSB? No, but I'm not American, and I know that 80% of the world has been royally fucked over (toppling governments, meddling, dictatorships supported) by the CIA, whereas few have had any issues with FSB (just/mainly their neighboring countries, and not…

(And concerning "territories they claim as their own", it takes a lot of "down-with-whataboutism-lalala-hands-in-the-ears" for US to point to Nepal and forget Puerto Rico, or for that matter Hawaii. And let's not go further back...) What about Nepal?

Sorry, meant to write Tibet.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by erikbye »

abandonliberty wrote: post #485

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as... Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party. There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. Th…

What is the clear motive for undermining CIA and who is the biggest loser?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by thomask0 »

routelastresort wrote: post #737
redahs wrote: post #685

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We also know that Mr. Assange did lie about something in the past, his repeated claims that John Podesta's gmail password was 'password': http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/jan/06/...

PolitiFact: "completely unbiased" goalpost mover. His password was an iteration of 'password' - e.g. no real difference.

His Gmail password was probably runner4567, at least his icloud password was and he emailed it. Also not changed when that email leaked.

Just stop with the nonsense that his email password was "p@ssword", as the truth is just as stupid.

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