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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by pessimizer »

wildrhythms wrote: post #788
losvedir wrote: post #784

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago So... what's the concern of people? The video seems to be clearly him, not under duress, and current. What more could someone want? If he weren't in control of wikileaks surely he would say something.

>seems to be >surely he would say something These aren't exactly reassuring statements, at least not to me.

I'm not sure if this was a joke comment or not, but when the lack of evidence becomes evidence of concealment, you've fallen into paranoia. What would you think if your mother seemed to be fine, and you were fairly sure she would say something if she wasn't? Would you suspect someone was keeping her quiet?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by lubesGordi »

samstave wrote: post #554
abandonliberty wrote: post #485

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as... Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party. There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. Th…

> * Someone is seeking to control the narrative. * Uh... welcome to /r/conspiracy....

Seriously. This is the exact dialog that has been running on reddit for months (since Sept 2016 at least). People are constantly asking for Assange to provide 'proof of life' etc. They basically just assume Wikileaks is compromised for any number of weak reasons (typically many weak reasons taken in sum), and then jump straight to the conclusion that there is narrative controlling. The likely reason his post was downvoted was because the notion is played out.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by lubesGordi »

abandonliberty wrote: post #485

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as... Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party. There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. Th…

So because your completely unproven claim that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party was downvoted, that means the narrative is being controlled!?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

#814

Post by [deleted] »

Cookingboy wrote: post #767
incompatible wrote: post #674

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of us are not USians. I'd say if your goal is to make people elsewhere in the world love the US, then CIA dirty tricks isn't the way to do it. Dirty tricks by other governments wouldn't do much if the US was a genuinely beneficial influence in the world. At the moment it's not so clear that the US is beneficial, with it doing some things that are useful, but which Trump seems to want to eliminate as soon as poss…

Nope, the goal is not to make the rest of the world love the US. It is to further our own national interest while fucking over our enemies. Just like any other countries that ever existed in the history of human civilization.

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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by dangSuxAlienDik »

THE ECOLI IN GMO FOODS IS MICROSCOPIC UFOS

They secretly swapped out most of the corn syrup to be GMO Corn syrup

>read every soda, cereal, cake, candy bar, cookie, donut, fruit bar, fiber bar

THEREFORE 1000s OF VIRAL DOSES PER PERSON PER YEAR

And one year here, down there is 100,000,000 years or some shit, so they breed MILLIONS

THEY SNUCK ECOLI into GMO FOODS, escpecially gmo corn syrup, increasing the vaccine/ufo dosage of americans 10000% or more.

ECOLI AND VACCINES ARE LITTLE UFOS

r eddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5xrt9i/vaccines_virus_are_little_ufos_graphs_and_details/

    for those of you with your 3rd eyes its super easy to prove:
    
    just look in ur body and say dont show me ur ufo at the arm you were injected in
    
    or find a hormone and ask it if it has a boyfriend, lays eggs etc
    
    put a mosquito on ur desk in a plastic bag and try to visualize its UFO
    
    super easy

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by SomeStupidPoint »

I... Uh... I'm disturbed by lots of things the CIA does, and I'm sure there's something incriminating in here.

But isn't it a little weird we're suddenly talking about the CIA's capability instead of the investigation in to the administration's Russian connections? You know, the one that seems to have every high level official with illicit contact, including the AG lying about contact to Congress and a campaign adviser making serious allegations just last week?

We definitely have to do something about the CIA and their shenanigans, but this "leak" is mostly them doing their job effectively made out to be scary by people with a known bias.

Maybe we can stop chasing random scary thing, and focus on the election that had a major PSYOP by a foreign power that resulted in an administration with unusual to illicit ties to that foreign power.

Im all for holding out intel community to account for their behavior, but now isn't really the time for it. We have more major issues to deal with.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by marmot777 »

pillowkusis wrote: post #631
marmot777 wrote: post #500

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they make such monumentally short-sighted, clearly bad decisions? Is it weak technical leadership (weak political or just old fashioned weak)? What is the internal logic these people use to justify pure folly that's probably done more harm than good even to their own interests and goals? Baffling.

Nobody makes "decisions" like this in an organization with the level of complexity and bureaucracy that the CIA has. A lot of these decisions can be seen more as emergent behavior, subject to politics, short-term immediate incentives, and the pragmatic observation that any attempt to make significant changes (i.e. "change the laws around classification of documents") has such a high time horizon that it's better to b…

All of this makes more sense when I imagine smaller groups within the bureaucracy with narrow objectives and severe myopia trying to "solve" immediate problems to achieve short-term objectives. It makes my skin crawl to contemplate but the truth is that human beings do this sort of thing all the time.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by code_duck »

dopamean wrote: post #149
apo wrote: post #92

In what is surely one of the most astounding intelligence own goals in living memory, the CIA structured its classification regime such that for the most market valuable part of "Vault 7" — the CIA's weaponized malware (implants + zero days), Listening Posts (LP), and Command and Control (C2) systems — the agency has little legal recourse. The CIA made these systems unclassified. Why the CIA chose to make its cyberar…

> This means that cyber 'arms' manufactures and computer hackers can freely "pirate" these 'weapons' if they are obtained. Does the author really think that if the tools were exposed then people who wanted to use these tools actually wouldn't simply because they were labelled "classified" somewhere?

I think that's referring to people who want to sell them, like the people who supply cracking tools to questionable governments.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by gankedfrank »

abandonliberty wrote: post #485

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as... Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party. There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. Th…

I don't know, an argument could be made that there is always cause to undermine state-run intelligence, and I'd like to think Assange knows this, but I don't have enough to be sure about it, obviously.
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