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Re: Ask HN: Who is Firing?

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A few states including California have the WARN act [1]. The latest layoffs reported can be found here: http://www.edd.ca.gov/jobs_and_training/warn/WARN-Report-for... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

Wow, parsing that from all states that have it could be interesting.

AFAIK, the WARN Act is a federal law, meaning it should apply in all states.

Re: Ask HN: Who is Firing?

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The layoffs continue at Oracle, specifically in Hardware ("converged infrastructure" too), as our HW revenue has shrunk from 5b per year in 2010 to 1.7b roughly this year. Margin had dropped drastically as well, from 1.9b in profit to -45m (!) in the same time period. All data taken from our public SEC filings. While this doesn't truly affect Oracle and its stock that much, our overall revenue continues to shrink glo…

How much xenophobic sentiment is there within tech workers themselves? I would think very little because most people in the industry are smart enough to understand that would be misdirected.

Re: Ask HN: Who is Firing?

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Ok, I thought there is a different between layoff and Firing. Now seems everyone using it Interchangeably.

Firing is usually "for cause": you, specifically, did something wrong or aren't performing well.

Layoffs are usually more related to business conditions: the company is losing money and needs fewer employees, or is pivoting in a different direction and no longer needs certain types of employees.

All that said, it's called "Who's Firing" because it's pithier and matches the "Who's Hiring" threads; these comments are all probably layoff-related.

Re: Ask HN: Who is Firing?

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What is the point of threads like this? Is the OP trying to be witty or humorous? I don't believe these threads contribute to any discussions on this website. They are deliberately created as a joke.

They are presumably useful to anyone actively in the job market, as a company firing staff is a red flag for any prospective employee

Re: Ask HN: Who is Firing?

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The layoffs continue at Oracle, specifically in Hardware ("converged infrastructure" too), as our HW revenue has shrunk from 5b per year in 2010 to 1.7b roughly this year. Margin had dropped drastically as well, from 1.9b in profit to -45m (!) in the same time period. All data taken from our public SEC filings. While this doesn't truly affect Oracle and its stock that much, our overall revenue continues to shrink glo…

How is one being xenophobic if they are not happy their job is going overseas?

I apologize for the very late delay on this response.

Of course someone should be unhappy that their CEO and Board of Directors has made a decision to lay them off in the USA explicitly because of salary costs, instead of performance or some important cause.

The reality is that this is the right of a private company- all you can do is attempt to navigate the deeply illogical and political system that we call the private sector.

Deciding that you should hate someone you've never met, because of their skin color, national origin, etc, because you think that THEY PERSONALLY took your job, is not logical or enjoyable in my opinion.

One should always blame the company, an artificial and greedy machine, not a fellow human, which is an organism driven by self preservation no matter the country of origin

Re: Ask HN: Who is Firing?

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The layoffs continue at Oracle, specifically in Hardware ("converged infrastructure" too), as our HW revenue has shrunk from 5b per year in 2010 to 1.7b roughly this year. Margin had dropped drastically as well, from 1.9b in profit to -45m (!) in the same time period. All data taken from our public SEC filings. While this doesn't truly affect Oracle and its stock that much, our overall revenue continues to shrink glo…

How much xenophobic sentiment is there within tech workers themselves? I would think very little because most people in the industry are smart enough to understand that would be misdirected.

I generally agree with you, but I would say if the tech industry as a whole was like a muscle that appeared empathetic and understanding of cultural differences, there would be a thin nerve of xenophobia that controls some of the major movements of said muscle.

Why do I say this? It is a bit inherent for Americans to believe their job is theirs alone if they are performing adequately. If you are laid off, especially in sales, and then the company goes and spends money to hire someone in India or Romania, a xenophobic person would blame that new employee for existing. They wouldn't blame the company for making an unprofitable and often unethical move.

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