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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by dragonwriter »

FullMtlAlcoholc wrote: post #50
tehwalrus wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If these actions are being done domestically against US citizens, with no just cause sure I will get upset, but that has yet to be seen. May I just ask, why does this distinction matter? Why do you believe the world should be divided into "people who were issued bits of paper by my overlords" and "people who weren't"? I never understood this division in other people's heads. It leads to all sorts of philosophical p…

I believe that in my heart as well. However, we don't currently live in a world with a federated global government. The recent election in the US highlighted that people do divide the world into imaginary lines on maps and it had a slogan: AMERICA FIRST. It's not just the political class that sees these divisions, it's a majority of the citizens. How would you spark a revolution in people's thinking?

> The recent election in the US highlighted that people do divide the world into imaginary lines on maps and it had a slogan: AMERICA FIRST. It's not just the political class that sees these divisions, it's a majority of the citizens.

Trump didn't even get a majority of the votes cast (or even just the votes cast for major party candidates), much less support from the "majority of the citizens".

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by mrlatinos »

mrpippy wrote: post #451

Also: OmniGraffle and Sublime Text license keys (registered to "Affinity Computer Technology") https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_25264141.html https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_9535650.html

Ooo now I can say my text editor is commissioned by the CIA!

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by dragonwriter »

zaroth wrote: post #572
nostrademons wrote: post #557

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Do keep in mind that Trump received 63M votes out of a total population of 319M (~20%). Even if you consider the election a referendum on globalization (and there are many reasons besides nationalism that people may have voted for Trump, as well as reasons that an anti-globalist might have voted for Clinton), that's pretty far from a majority. Similarly, Brexit received 17.4M votes out of a total UK population of 64M…

The right denominator is either eligible voters (241 million) or registered voters (146 million) not the overall population. [1] - http://www.statisticbrain.com/voting-statistics/

The claim made based on the election results was about what it showed about the belief of the "majority of the citizens", so that's the right denominator, but if it matters Trump also didn't get a majority of eligible voters, or a majority of registered voters, or a majority of actual votes cast, or a majority of votes cast for one of the two major party candidates.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by debacle »

criley2 wrote: post #551
wamsachel wrote: post #519

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But part of these leaks implicate the Russians, as their toy chest has been exposed too.

Russians do not have free press and the state controlled media allows them to use nationalism to strongly insulate themselves from criticism and foreign press. Combined with their propensity for assassinating dissenters and journalists, there is less willpower to resist the fascism. It's to the point now that things like this improve Putin's poll numbers, not hurt them.

> the state controlled media allows them to use nationalism to strongly insulate themselves from criticism

Have you watched news in the US recently?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by jdironman »

badloginagain wrote: post #562
wavefunction wrote: post #555

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Are you positing that Trump or members of his administration have somehow released these CIA resources? Or just that WikiLeaks is bringing attention to these resources and their current "libre" status in the wild?

Im stating the possibility that the Executive Branch made available the means to doxx the CIA. The timing, the target, and the vector of attack all line up very nicely.

That sounds like such a CIA move. Always attacking indirectly.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by lngnmn »

Looks like a fake. Tons of publicly available crap in the files section and 3 pdfs with words SECRET and even TOP-SECRET in the names.

This could be a dump of any amateur team whatsoever with just these 3 files added.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by digler999 »

fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #556
digler999 wrote: post #276

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While I don't think the CIA is above killing a US citizen on US soil (you know, for "security" or something), I don't think they need to hack a vehicle to do it, nor would they want to draw the unnecessary speculation and attention. I would expect antics like that to be reserved for high-ranking foreign officials or other hard-to-reach people. If there's one thing that agency should be expected to excel in, it's untr…

> I don't think they need to hack a vehicle to do it, The CIA has multiple ways to cause a death. No doubt about that. They don't "need" to use any particular method, but if they want to kill someone, that have to choose at least one method. >nor would they want to draw the unnecessary speculation and attention. What unnecessary speculation and attention? Is LAPD going to bust out their JTAG debuggers, and compare th…

why would they resort to elaborate techniques to do so when they could have someone walk up and pick him off with a gun or poison or just have him "disappeared"? You're saying instead they chose a method that requires a sophisticated firmwmare hack that may not even work (just gunning the engine is no guarantee it will kill the man), installing it, and then finding an appropriate time and place to deploy it (while also putting other bystanders at risk). To me it seems quite a stretch. I would prefer Occam's razor on this. I think a more likely scenario is he was being surveilled (and possibly even intimidated) by feds, which led to his anxiety and paranoia (which has been established). Then he got spooked that night, thinking someone was following him (and he may have been right), and flipped out and overreacted. It's also possible his accelerator stuck and he didn't react correctly/in time. Look at my comment below: I'm not saying feds wouldn't kill a US citizen, I just dont think they chose to hack the firmware in this case.

As an aside, I"m not familiar with his car but I find it hard to believe that neither the ebreak, main break, ignition, nor transmission lever (assuming it was auto) could mitigate his situation. I think they would have to hack more than just firmware, since there are mechanical linkages and/or hardware interlocks on some of those components.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by knieveltech »

trendia wrote: post #578
abandonliberty wrote: post #485

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as... Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party. There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. Th…

There are several elements: 1) what the material exposes 2) how it was obtained 3) why it was released We should condemn (2) and (3) even if we condemn (1). That is, a properly functioning society shouldn't need to rely on leaks for corruption and abuse of power to be exposed. At the same time, we should always respond to abuse of power and trust; to do so because we don't want to help "the bad guys" simply creates a…

I feel like it has been very thoroughly demonstrated that we in the US do not enjoy the comforts of a properly functioning society, and as such leaks are a hard requirement for corruption and abuse of power to be exposed.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by prodmerc »

abandonliberty wrote: post #485

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as... Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party. There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. Th…

> This comment was immediately down voted on Reddit. Someone is seeking to control the narrative.

Oooor, you know, the knee jerk reaction is to downvote you because it's an unpopular opinion. Even I had it for a brief second before I realized 1. You may be right; 2. I don't really give a shit.

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