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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by elif »

jowiar wrote: post #347
elif wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're commenting on a release that includes CIA guidelines for structuring file metadata specifically to avoid US attribution... And arguing that questioning the integrity of file metadata is a conspiracy theory... https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_14587109.html

File metadata wasn't my concern. Spreading baseless rumors without concern for grieving family and friends makes Sparkling (and his buddies) grade-A fuckwads in my book.

Even if Seth is 100% uninvolved in the actual leaks, his mysterious death is still relevant to this discussion because:

Podesta: "I'm definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real basis for it." https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082#efmAG...

which is verifiable with google's 2048-bit dkim key.

I am sorry that the subject is sore, but that is not a reason to accept a contrived government narrative or dismiss any otherwise postulation or, in this case, theoretical supposition as conspiracy theory.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by atmosx »

monochromatic wrote: post #443
dmix wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There also still hasn't been any public evidence that Wikileaks got their Podesta email data from Russians yet. So far we only know the DNC leaks were very likely Russian. That means until today only about ~50% of the 'election hacks' have been attributed to Russia with public evidence. Now this leak calls into question some of the evidence about the DNC hack [1]. This evidence being the malware was Russian. But ther…

What public evidence is there that the DNC leaks were related to Russia?

There's no evidence. It makes for a good romance though...

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by beagle3 »

rogerthis wrote: post #46

I wonder if, supposing a legit war use, those tools would work. Maybe in taking down some enemy tech infra, but on collecting information, i really have doubts. That would be too much data to process unless they had specific targets. Human intelligence would be much more effective. Anyway, I remember a story of a US submarine that hacked soviet cables in the 70s or 80s.

I would suspect that at a time of war, especially in the first few months, there is a lot of tactical info to be collected from whatsapp and Facebook conversations between people and their families ("I'm going to be busy tonight with an operation, but I promise I'll call when I'm back, love"). Whether this can be efficiently processed is a different question, which I believe google can answer affirmatively, and likely also palantir and some TLAs

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by dang »

jowiar wrote: post #272

Quit with the fucking conspiracy theories. Seriously -- can we get a fucking mod in here to get rid of this shit.

People are going to post for and against this stuff regardless of what we do. It sounds like you have additional reason to feel strongly about it but expressing that this way is inevitably counterproductive.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13811866 and marked it off-topic.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by abandonliberty »

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as...

Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party.

There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. This may not have been an act of altruism like Snowden. While shockingly damaging to the American arsenal, the CIA is by far the biggest loser.

This comment was immediately down voted on Reddit. Someone is seeking to control the narrative.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by [deleted] »

dvcc wrote: post #5

Based on the overview alone (of course I can't read the entire report that fast!), this is exactly what I expect a spy agency would be doing -- if they were not then I would be disappointed. What exactly in the admittedly shortened list am I supposed to be upset about? It makes no distinction between US citizens and overseas parties. If these actions are being done domestically against US citizens, with no just cause…

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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by dang »

afandian wrote: post #227

I am completely bemused that on the one hand the CIA is quite happy to literally murder, rape and and torture left right and centre, overthrow foreign governments, interfere with elections etc ... but is careful about adhering to the finer points US Constitution.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13810721 and marked it off-topic.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by jMyles »

dvcc wrote: post #5

Based on the overview alone (of course I can't read the entire report that fast!), this is exactly what I expect a spy agency would be doing -- if they were not then I would be disappointed. What exactly in the admittedly shortened list am I supposed to be upset about? It makes no distinction between US citizens and overseas parties. If these actions are being done domestically against US citizens, with no just cause…

> What exactly in the admittedly shortened list am I supposed to be upset about?

That, with taxpayer dollars, the government of the United States is undermining the security of consumer devices around the world.

Part of the difference between your worldview and the view of those of us who find this behavior childish and unacceptable is that you "expect a spy agency would be doing [this;] if they were not then [you] would be disappointed." Whereas for many of us, the legitimacy of the state is already on thin ice and is subject to descent below the x-axis as the internet comes to supplant it.

Listening to my neighbor through their TV set is just one thing I want the state to stop doing as our species moves into the internet age; other things I want it to stop include all the other things it does.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by msabalau »

verbify wrote: post #249
teekert wrote: post #177

Well, traveling to the US I have had to fill out a green form stating that I'm not a terrorist or a 40-45 Nazi. I guess they capture a lot of pathological truth-telling terrorists/Nazis with this piece of paper

The question also has a ham-fisted phrasing: > Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies? My grandfather, who lost his German citizenship in the 30s and had to leave Germany for England due to the persecutions associated with Nazi German…

Thus protecting the country from having to endure the sort of people who can't help but ignore the pragmatics of a question.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by astrange »

camperman wrote: post #236
dmix wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There also still hasn't been any public evidence that Wikileaks got their Podesta email data from Russians yet. So far we only know the DNC leaks were very likely Russian. That means until today only about ~50% of the 'election hacks' have been attributed to Russia with public evidence. Now this leak calls into question some of the evidence about the DNC hack [1]. This evidence being the malware was Russian. But ther…

> So far we only know the DNC leaks were very likely Russian. We don't know that at all. There isn't a single piece of evidence for it anywhere.

https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/81662291586096332...
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