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To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls

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Re: To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls

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Imagine how much more expensive living in LA will be. Instead of fixing their god awful public transit (like NYC) they want to punish people for using the only reliable mode of transportation?

How are you going to get people to invest in public transit without getting them out of their cars?

LA is hands down the worst major metro area I've been to when it comes to transit, and getting people off the roads will only improve that situation—carpooling, public transit, biking, and hell WALKING are all better options.

Re: To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls

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Imagine how much more expensive living in LA will be. Instead of fixing their god awful public transit (like NYC) they want to punish people for using the only reliable mode of transportation?

How are you going to get people to invest in public transit without getting them out of their cars? LA is hands down the worst major metro area I've been to when it comes to transit, and getting people off the roads will only improve that situation—carpooling, public transit, biking, and hell WALKING are all better options.

As long as it's the poor people that you get off the roads which is what the effect of tolls will be.

Re: To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls

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Imagine how much more expensive living in LA will be. Instead of fixing their god awful public transit (like NYC) they want to punish people for using the only reliable mode of transportation?

"punish people" is odd way to phrase that. It would help everyone not hurt just some people.

Re: To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls

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Imagine how much more expensive living in LA will be. Instead of fixing their god awful public transit (like NYC) they want to punish people for using the only reliable mode of transportation?

How are you going to get people to invest in public transit without getting them out of their cars? LA is hands down the worst major metro area I've been to when it comes to transit, and getting people off the roads will only improve that situation—carpooling, public transit, biking, and hell WALKING are all better options.

LA is 35 miles long. What would the walking commute of 10 million people look like?

So you're suggesting that instead of fixing the problem (public transit) they should start whipping people so that the rich can drive on their traffic-free roads?

Re: To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you going to get people to invest in public transit without getting them out of their cars? LA is hands down the worst major metro area I've been to when it comes to transit, and getting people off the roads will only improve that situation—carpooling, public transit, biking, and hell WALKING are all better options.

As long as it's the poor people that you get off the roads which is what the effect of tolls will be.

"the poor people" is such a wide brush. How about it would make middle class people think about their budgets carefully and only drive when really needed.

Re: To fix L.A.'s traffic, we need tolls

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The article falsely assumes that the HOV lane has spare capacity. During rush hour here all lanes are equally clogged, and sometimes the HOV lane is actually slower than the other 4 lanes. The only way to fix LA traffic with current infrastructure is self driving car pools. If/when they can get to the point in which they are safer than normal drivers, and safe for the riders (crime inside of self driving cars) LA traffic will be solved. This will eliminate the necessity of having a car allowing for increased taxes on car ownership, reducing traffic on the roads.
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